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Apr 09, 2015 Roda Slane link
While fighting Zok [Itan], I was attacked by Avataros [Sol], Andrew215 [TGFT], and Ossella Be-Reme [TGFT]. I paused to inform all that I have a standing non aggression pact with TGFT.

log edited for brevity.

You are entering Sedina B-8
Andrew215 has entered the sector
Ossella Be-Reme has entered the sector
Zok has entered the sector
Avataros has entered the sector
8east85jy has entered the sector
8east85jy has left the sector
<Zok> die slane
*Zok* Hey'll
<Roda Slane> tgft is in violation of a standing non aggression pact
<Zok> oh?
[100] <Roda Slane> tgft is in violation of a standing non aggression pact
<Avataros> "Roda Slane's war against TGFT"?
<Zok> who?
<Andrew215> come here, ill show you what that meens to me
<Zok> I am at war with "Roda Slane"
[100] <Roda Slane> Andrew215 and "Ossella Be-Reme" . you will cease fire, or i will take it up with tgft leadership
<Roda Slane> Andrew215 and "Ossella Be-Reme" . you will cease fire, or i will take it up with tgft leadership
[100] <Andrew215> fine lol
<Avataros> My sources indicate Roda Slanes head to be smaller than they think it is.
You are entering Sedina L-2
[100] <Andrew215> aww, he ran away..
Roda Slane destroyed Andrew215
<8east85jy> as u look to ur left u see world war 3 taking place
Roda Slane destroyed 8east85jy
<8east85jy> we should all group
<Roda Slane> tgft is in violation of a standing non aggression pact
Roda Slane destroyed 8east85jy
Roda Slane destroyed Ossella Be-Reme
[100] <Ahuramazda> Yes
Ahuramazda has entered the sector
[100] <Roda Slane> tgft is in violation of a standing non aggression pact
[100] <kbireta> yt, anyone who shows up get's 4 hour pass?
*Ahuramazda* in what way
Roda Slane destroyed 8east85jy
->Ahuramazda: Andrew215 and "Ossella Be-Reme" fired on me in b8, 8east85jy joined in as well
[100] <kbireta> go YT-1300!!! he really is a pirate tonight :)
*Ahuramazda* They are new players. was it concentual?
->Ahuramazda: they continued even after i informed them of a standing non aggression pact
->Ahuramazda: i told them to stop.
*Ahuramazda* I will speak to them as council
->Ahuramazda: let me know when/if this is resolved.
*Ahuramazda* already in process
[100] <Zok> lame slane
->Ahuramazda: Andrew215 is still shooting at me.
You are entering Sedina B-8
Zok has entered the sector
Avataros has entered the sector
Andrew215 has entered the sector
8east85jy has entered the sector
*Ahuramazda* talking tohim now
Roda Slane destroyed 8east85jy
*Ahuramazda* I'll drop a note to the LTs as well on this.
<Andrew215> yes
->Ahuramazda: 8east85jy is also persesting in attack
*Ahuramazda* feck!
->Ahuramazda: i will make a post in rp detailing the event.
*Ahuramazda* understood
*kbireta* are tgft shootign at you?
*kbireta* instructing tgft not to shoot at you if not shot at
->kbireta: Ahuramazda already tried to take care of it. i have not seen positive results
*Ossella Be-Reme* Hail
[100] <kbireta> roda just said tgft is still shooting at him
[100] <Andrew215> i was hit by roda slane
->Ahuramazda: you do see Andrew215 shooting at me
*kbireta* well, tgft doesn't like getting shot at in your war with itan
->Ahuramazda: i did not shoot at any tgft until they shot at me.
[100] <Roda Slane> i did not shoot at any tgft until they shot at me.
[100] <Roda Slane> and even then, i only shot at the specific tgft that shot at me
*Ahuramazda* ok
->Ahuramazda: and standing by zok to take splash damage is not an escuse.
*Ahuramazda* I noted that
->Ahuramazda: i am really stretching here to maintain a nap.
->Ahuramazda: would you like to duel?
*Ahuramazda* I'll post to the leadership about this. Apologies for my newbies. We'll see what we can do.
Ossella Be-Reme destroyed Roda Slane
->kbireta: "Ossella Be-Reme" is non stop target at this point
->kbireta: Andrew215 and 8east85jy have stopped shooting at me
->kbireta: but "Ossella Be-Reme" will be out of tgft, or he will tell me in person he will not shoot at me, and pay me 1 mil
->kbireta: come to think of it, Andrew215 and 8east85jy will also publicly state that the will respect the nap
*kbireta* talking to him
*kbireta* do you miss your targets a lot?
*kbireta* if you hit tgft member, not good, btw
*kbireta* if you miss and hit tgft member, recommend not complaining
*kbireta* withdraw and dont fight with ONE
->kbireta: if i am fighting itan, and a tgft stands next to the itan so he can take splash damage, i will kill him too.
->kbireta: pardon?
->kbireta: i will fight with one all i like
*kbireta* good, you chose side
->kbireta: dude. it isn't an aliance. it is a non aggression pact.
*kbireta* fine, stop crying like a sissy
*kbireta* tgft kills you
->kbireta: ok. i war tgft.
[100] <Roda Slane> ok kbireta . i am now at war with tgft.
*kbireta* you fight with one
->kbireta: i fight with one when killing itan, and i fight with itan while killing one
[100] <kbireta> you said you fight with one but wine like a niny when tgft shoots you when you miss
[100] <Andrew215> aww you got me, your fun to screw with dirty :)
[100] <Dirty 'oRe> don't worry kenny, roda is flying with your mates
->kbireta: but i do not targhet tgft
->kbireta: until now
->kbireta: so fuck off

so if kbireta wants to act like i have to dance around TGFT, then I just don't even need the headache of going out of my way to maintain the nap.
Apr 10, 2015 greenwall link
ahahahahhahaha
Apr 10, 2015 Surbius link
I am involving myself with this situation as I feel to be personally obligated too given my past involvement with TGFT's treaties and NAPs. I will not be engaging Roda Slane in combat unless consensual given this recent incident. I am sorry this incident came to be and hope it can be resolved in a proper and fair manner.

My apologies to HepFree, Greenwall, and brzi95 for not informing of them of my non-aggression status with Roda Slane during the recent combat activity in Sedina B-8 as I was unaware of this above incident at the time.

Throughout my years in Vendetta Online and as a member of TGFT, I take matters of treaties with a code of honor and as such expect those privy to those treaties to be honorable in its implementation. This has not always been the case but thankfully better judgement prevails in the majority of these actions. I hope that all parties involved will act honorably.

- Surbius Bondevo
Apr 10, 2015 abortretryfail link
You forgot to fill out Form N274-B in triplicate.
Apr 10, 2015 Sieger link
Heh... Hello Roda.
It all sounds like an awful B8 misunderstanding again. To my knowledge, TGFT does not intend a war with you. TGFT is a very busy and very large guild, we have many members, plenty of newbies lately and we try our best to keep up with informing them on who's KOS and who we have a NAP. But especially with the Androiders, that is barely possible. Many of them dislike reading important stuff such as KOS/NAP lists, that's how stuff like this comes to happen.
One vital thing they learn is that Itan is on friendly terms with us, therefore they thought that someone who attacks our friends must be a bad guy. We have already started communcation with those members and as I've heard, you were already reimbursed for the loss caused by this accident.

If you wish for more diplomatic discussion to settle this, feel free to contact us. Let's try to keep it on friendly diplomatic terms, as we always used to back in the years.

Sieger, Councilor of TGFT
Apr 10, 2015 bojansplash link
I wish to register a complaint.
It's unsightly to watch all those TGFT guys bent over with their pants down before Roda.
Apr 10, 2015 Roda Slane link
I held my fire on the offending [TGFT] long enough to inform them that I had a Non Aggression Pact with [TGFT], after which, I targeted anyone that attacked me.

After Ahuramazda questioned me on the issue, and said he would deal with it, I ceased to target all [TGFT], and resumed my attack on Zok [ITAN]. During a bombing run on Zok's trident, Andrew215 claimed I hit him. Standing next to my obvious target in order to take splash damage to interpret aggression is outright deception. I have very low tolerance for liars.

Later, in D14, I was fighting [ONE], Andrew215 and 8east85jy did not fire at me, so I let it be. "Ossella Be-Reme" swarmed me at point blank, without warning or provocation.

Let me be perfectly clear. kbireta, nor any other [TGFT], is going to tell me when or where I can or can not kill [ONE]. It is beyond the scope of our agreement. I will kill [ONE] at my convenience. I do not like that [TGFT] appears to be in alliance with [ITAN], but as long as [TGFT] does not intentionally interfere with my war with [ITAN], it is otherwise beyond the scope of our agreement.

As far as the furball with Surbius, I initially targeted [ONE], due to the overwhelming presence of proms. After the prom issue was pared down to manageable size, I targeted [PA], whom Surbius appeared to be in alliance with. Surbius is honor bound to not defend [PA] from me, as I am honor bound to not target Surbius, even when tactically advantageous to myself. [PA] and others may have fared worse otherwise.

Due to the continued diplomatic efforts of respected members of [TGFT], I intend to maintain the standing Non Aggression Pact. I accept the public statements from the high level representatives of [TGFT] as intent to maintain the pact. I have accepted compensation from [TGFT] for loses I attribute to "Ossella Be-Reme". As conclusion to these diplomatic efforts, I ask for public statements from Andrew215 and "Ossella Be-Reme" of intent to respect this pact.
Apr 10, 2015 Kierky link
lol, soft cocks.
Apr 10, 2015 Ore link
That was a good battle! I'm not sure what all this NAP stuff means :)
Apr 10, 2015 smittens link
It means everyone is too cranky and needs to take a good nap
Apr 10, 2015 Roda Slane link
It was a good battle, ore. I lost multiple ships, with my only compensation being the hivegat I picked up, and a 1mil bounty that fell in my lap.
Apr 10, 2015 TheRedSpy link
You're a whiney little weasel aren't you Roda Slane.
Apr 10, 2015 idd link
Dunno about you guys but it's pretty obvious to me that Roda is suffering from the "I think I matter" disease.
Apr 10, 2015 Roda Slane link
I only whine about stuff I can back with blasters. What are you whining about?
Apr 11, 2015 TheRedSpy link
If you're whining about 2 TGFT attacking you, you definitely can't back it with blasters. They are the worst pilots in 3 galaxies.
Apr 11, 2015 ClarenceC link
You're a bullshitter TRS.
Ecka, Sieger, spidey, Surbius and a good handful more of TGFT are all better pilots than you and 90% of your inactive guildmates. Watch your stupid mouth.
Apr 11, 2015 Roda Slane link
@TheRedSpy:

You demonstrate very little foresight, and/or a complete lack of understanding of my objectives.

I easily decimated the three offending [TGFT]. But such situations generally escalate, unless proactive measures are taken otherwise.

[TGFT] has historically proven it can and will maintain it's commitments. [TGFT] has historically proven that it will be guided by the interest of the majority of it's members that conform to the ideals of [TGFT], and by not minority or external interests. I believe that [TGFT] discourages it's members from engaging in unsolicited aggression, an ideology that I share.

I have a large number of compelling reason to maintain a standing Non Aggression Pact with [TGFT], and only three minor reasons not to.

Even if it was not [TGFT] we where talking about, Non Aggression Pacts are an important diplomatic tool that allows me to focus on killing unsolicited aggressors, and the pawns thereof. Zok is a pawn of [ITAN], [ITAN] makes little to no pretence about engaging in unsolicited aggressions. Deceitful unsolicited aggressors are higher priority that bold face blatant unsolicited aggressors. Blatant unsolicited aggressors are higher priority than pawns.

[FAMY] are bold faced blatant bullies. I don't even have room on the list for them. I have no war with [FAMY]. I am too busy.

An open conflict with those I perceive as "aggressive only when provoked" would not only be major distraction from my primary objectives, but also contrary to my basic ideology.
Apr 11, 2015 Ore link
That's a lot of typing for killing a few TGFT. I don't understand!!
Apr 11, 2015 DeathSpores link
shoulda filled up a form roda
Apr 11, 2015 idd link
OK Clarence seems you are a little misguided, let me clear you up a little.

a) Ecka sucks in anything that isn't a prom with gats and flares
b) While spidey is legitimately good, he's not TGFT
c) Surbius sucks
d) Sieger also sucks