Beam Weapons

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 Tue, Mar 09, 2010  Impavid
Now is the time, because the time is now!
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 Tue, Mar 09, 2010  Chaosis
ok
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 Tue, Mar 09, 2010  Dr. Lecter
http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/3/15587
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 Tue, Mar 09, 2010  ShankTank
Just kamikaze with ice flares. It's much more fun.
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 Wed, Mar 10, 2010  toshiro
Not the same though.
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 Wed, Mar 10, 2010  Willis
I want sharks with frickin' lazer beams on their heads!
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 Sun, Mar 14, 2010  Antz
Yes, give capships capital starshatter-style beam weapons!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3K_TYpU2B8
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 Sun, Mar 14, 2010  Dr. Lecter
A shattering star is not the first thing brought to mind by the name Starshatter.
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 Sun, Mar 14, 2010  ladron
I loved that game. It was so awesome. The promo video absolutely doesn't do it justice.
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 Mon, Mar 15, 2010  ShankTank
Does Starshatter use newtonian physics with their fighters, by any chance?
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 Mon, Mar 15, 2010  toshiro
This article says it does. The game actually looks quite interesting, but, lacking MP, it's not much more than a WC clone, from where I'm standing. That is not to say that its SP does not rock. I'll have to see if I can find a copy.

And I agree with Lecter.

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They're making it hard for me to buy the game. For one thing, it's nearly as expensive as on launch; and for another, no copies are to be had in Europe, so shipping to me costs 3 times the price of the game. Helllooo tpb.
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 Mon, Mar 15, 2010  Antz
Yes, it does have Newtonian physics, as well as planets, atmospheric flights, and believe it or not, the whole thing was a one man project.

An early version of it came free on a CD I got in 2001, I have never played the actual commercial version as I have not used Windows since its release.

The "beta" I played did have some things VO could borrow, namely capship control and combat (you don't directly control the capship, you are the captain and you order helm to steer on a course).

It would be awesome of Guild could find that guy and get him to come and work with them :-)
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 Mon, Mar 15, 2010  ladron
Starshatter has a very realistic newtonian physics flight model. There are no maximum velocities or anything; you have x number of thrusters at specific points of your hull capable of generating Newtons of thrust at the cost of z kg of fuel per second. If you're in a fighter, though, you better think twice before just sitting on the thrusters, as you'll quickly run out of fuel if you do that very often. Fighter to fighter combat takes place at longer ranges than in VO, generally, and guided missiles are at least equally as important as guns. That being said, I used to get in close (<15km) and tear up entire wings of interceptors with guns while spamming chaff and flares to keep their missiles off of me. It was good times.

The capital ship combat was very well done too; it's one of the few games thoughtful enough to provide point-defense turrets on capital ships to shoot down enemy torpedoes and missiles while leaving the main laser and plasma cannon batteries free to pound away at the enemy capital ships.

I'm tempted to see if it works in Wine now.
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 Mon, Mar 15, 2010  Antz
Damn, I am convinced. Going to try it in wine too now...
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 Mon, Mar 15, 2010  toshiro
I shall try CrossOver and also see how it performs in VirtualBox.
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 Mon, Mar 15, 2010  Alloh
Try FS2 + SCP + MediaVPS 3.6.10. It is single player, but WHAT A GAME!!! Hundreds of user-made missions, campaings and mods...

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=freespace+scp+%2B%223.6.10%22&search_type=&aq=f
(Notice how some ships are 'metallic', and explosion debris...)

FS2 can have newtonian physics or 'airplanes in space', just like VO. Beam weapons, ammo, missiles and everything is there, including "realistic" capships, but only combat is there, no mining/trading/etc
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 Mon, Mar 15, 2010  mr_spuck
Yeah .. freespace still kicks ass. Capship battles look like a light show of doom there.
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 Mon, Mar 15, 2010  toshiro
I think this thread increased the number of peers by about 50% >_>
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 Mon, Mar 15, 2010  Antz
Heh. SS failed miserably in wine (it made my screen go black), but performed admirably in VirtualBox.

Yay, I get to fly capships with lazer beamz!
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 Fri, Mar 19, 2010  ShankTank
Didn't find any place to buy it, so I grabbed a torrent and took it for a spin on Bootcamp... I ended up playing it all day :D I'm very impressed with the pure frictionless space flight, I'm going to play this every time my internet is down! Traveling during patrols/bombing runs gets a little tedious, though, when the distances are so far that 2km/s @ 4x speed just doesn't cut it lol... I have to admit, though, even that is immersive.
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