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Longer Term Objectives vs Short Term Objectives...

Jul 01, 2014 Faceof link
Better to start without salsa.... why i feel is my last thread anyway....

Longer Term Objectives as :

http://www.vendetta-online.com/newsletter.05.2014.html

or and also :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfDAK3KrW2g

thats it!!!

Anyway i have to play 12 more months and i play them ...but its my last thread !!!

Think ur way guys ....WHERE u drive this game ....yes ...U R DEVELOPERS BUT WE R PLAYERS AND SUPPORTS U ALL GUYS!!!

For me ..i have signed up from : Signed up:2013-02-12 06:46:10 and from then i here for the new Trident variants....

Also im with U guys for the expand of "space" and also to polishing the roids ...and ...what more???

Why i feel so bad???

Before 3 days one of the most few active Deneb FIGHTER player inform me he stop to play this game ....his name??

RABII

Its very SAD ....thats so great game and CANT HOLD PLAYERS !!!

Again is my duty to informs u all ...so its not only the Star Citizen urs problem....is the FairSpace (MMORPG) is the Age Of Ascent (New)..... or more .....the Rodina (New)....or more the Pioneer ...comes out multiplier AND PLENTY MORE!!!
(i know many and many games to worth more ...whos forgot Hegemonia (MY LOVED PC single GAME....AND best EVER OST!!!) AND WHO HAVE CHECK FOR EXAMPLE "THE No Man's Sky" ???

What u do guys?

U HAVE EVEN TAKE A LOOK TO THIS GAMES??

Sooorry ....i have also forgot the X series and Elite ...ITS NOT EVE OR STAR CITIZEN UR REAL ENEMY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

U WANT MORE GAMES??? (EXCEPT STEAM) : [url]http://forums.spacebattles.com/[/url] - [url]http://spacesimcentral.com/ssc/[/url] - [url]http://www.spacegamejunkie.com/forums/index.php[/url] - [url]http://www.spacesector.com/blog/forum/index.php[/url] and some more...

What u have done from when i have subscribed?? (I think about it!!)

Yes ....Longer Term Objectives ....cool....

Really guys ...is useful to work/polishing more in useless ship like Hornet and LEFT behind Atlas one of the most useful ship???

With "cool" ....u stay soon more.... HOME ALONE ...like thats I feel every day/time as im online....

Idk guys ...every day VO LOST more players than HAVE subscribers.....U KNOW BETTER!!!

Anyway ....i HAVE TO play the game for more 12 moths AND I HELP AS MORE i can ....and also u know better THIS .... BUT!!!...... VO !!!...Steam its not ur SAVIOR!!!!!!!!!

Cheers...:)

VO is a great MMORPG game but not a real Sandbox ....and this why dont have the properly depth to can keep the interest of any new or old player in high levels and for a long playing time....for example many traders from our Guild stop playing why dont like to every time need to search/chatting for selling their goods ....VO needs desperately a trade platform/market to can put our goodies and after feel free to continue our game ...new ideas for players to players trading ( http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/3/28760 , http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/3/28357 , http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/3/28803 , http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/3/28916) and more dynamic game economy and maybe an Economic wars ( http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/3/28732 ) ...a cool new idea...

Also the crafting in VO is been stationary for a very very long time ...new Tridents variants and maybe a new tier of ships ( http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/3/28712 ) and also new craftable capital weapons ( http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/3/28913 ) and addons ( http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/3/28551 , http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/3/28891 , http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/3/28883 , http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/3/28845 , http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/3/28425 , and many more suggestions..) needed to come in game urgently ...

With a few changes in game and some new features u can attract many players and also give the motivations /mood to new and also old players to return in game for some a different reason until all the new changes (when their comes ...ever???) ...like a Casino ( http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/3/27971 , http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/3/28934 ) gambling needs money and if u not lucky need to find them ...in VO have many ways to make money!! ....and to make the Station banners more useful /helpful ( http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/3/28930 )...

Deneb wars need and can easily to refreshing interest of Nations with a few but proper changes /new features like Conquerable stations ( http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/3/28810 ) and also to fix blockades ( http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/3/28673 , http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/3/28933 , http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/3/28941 )....and maybe a sorted way for Deneb with a new sector bonus to VO....:)

New fighters /variants and new weapons always helps ... in forums have so many suggestions for this with plenty of ideas....

Make the Badges to worthwhile and gives more interest to personal advantage ( http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/3/28798 , http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/3/21368?page=8 ) and maybe is time to bring in VO and Guilds Badges ... hehhehe...

I think im not have forgetting something special....and if ...anyone can add it or suggest something new....:)
Cheers....

PS : hehhehe...and yes ...i forgot it....a grey nation?
...was a funny thread ( http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/3/28259 )..scenario...
Jul 01, 2014 Dr. Lecter link
Dear Mods: please, please hold him to his promise that this is his last thread.
Jul 01, 2014 vskye link
^^ :)
Jul 01, 2014 lance dogerty link
Why don't you just sell your account if you think you've bought a year, but clearly want to jump on another game asap. I'm sure someone would want it since you have a dent.
Jul 01, 2014 Pizzasgood link
Faceof, if you want people to take you seriously, you need to start typing out "you" instead of just "u". It would also help a lot if you didn't abuse the ellipses so much. Randomly yelling also doesn't help. Doing that sort of thing just makes you look demented.
Jul 01, 2014 Sieger link
To break the line of unfriendly comments I'll state my honest opinion here:

Faceof, as I understand your post, you are dissatisfied with all the stuff going on "too slow" in VO. I must agree the develeopers have made early promisses, but you must aswell see their situation. They are an enormously small number of friendly guys running a nice game. A lot of work has been put into this game and the devs are not getting tired of keeping player to dev contact which almost every other MMO lacks. They care for our problems even though they don't have much time.
You just cannot expect them to bring a new feature in every day. They are very careful and think twice before they release something. And I am that type of player to say "make it good before you release something half done".
Jul 01, 2014 Niki link
you're just bummed greece lost
Jul 04, 2014 davejohn link
The problem is that any long term objective has to imply dominance in an area of vo, if not it is meaningless as an objective.

If such an objective is introduced it creates imbalance, that puts off new or sporadic players.

So we tend to be stuck with short term objectives such as ctc or winning deneb. These become stale quickly, folk stop bothering with them. Space empties.

The only way to square the circle is to regularly introduce new medium and long term objectives, but as sieger observes this requires resources.

A decade on I have no clever answers to this conundrum, but until it happens the number of ingame players is likely to remain low, the numbers leaving and joining being in balance. It just needs a few decent objectives to tip the balance, but inventing things that are worth fighting over long term is not an easy task.
Jul 09, 2014 incarnate link
The only way to square the circle is to regularly introduce new medium and long term objectives, but as sieger observes this requires resources.

Basically, I'm trying to accumulate resources right now, so I can use them to develop what we all want (without going out of business). But, this requires spending current time on development that takes us away from gameplay. It's not always been a successful strategy, but we've had some luck in the past year, which made for the brief-but-sporadic sudden major changes earlier in 2014.

We have some good shit going on right now. I also understand where Faceof is coming from, and if I had a bunch more people like him, who were on yearly subs, I wouldn't have to juggle my priorities like this. But, that's an egg/chicken issue, and I'm approaching it the best way I know how.

We'll have some major announcements coming up shortly, I just don't want to jump the gun on them. Please stay tuned.
Jul 09, 2014 Conflict Diamond link
by all means, Inc: Stay in business!

@faceof: if you are going to enjoy Vendetta for years and years, you must embrace it as an open-ended roleplaying scenario. The mission content is only the beginning, or perhaps an ongoing framework, for you to create your own goals, and in the end, be the sole judge of your own success. Most of the truly rewarding goals in VO involve working with a team, whether it be a combat squadron, a mining crew, a manufacturing collective, a pirate clan, etc. The hours of gameplay may not equate to credits or xp gained, but the satisfaction from success is tenfold.
Jul 09, 2014 Sieger link
We'll have some major announcements coming up shortly, I just don't want to jump the gun on them. Please stay tuned.

That's good to hear! Take your time incarnate. I'm a fan of sudden surprise announcements that are found in-game shortly after :P

Faceof:

In extention to what CD recommended and since I know your current gameplay a little I'd like to throw some tips in so you get a clue how to proceed and how to stick around longer than just a year from now, should you not be satisfied with the amount of big updates: Experiment with everything a little. That means that you have to try out all sorts of activities in VO: Train your PvP (a never ending road), do hive hunting, be a pirate, do border skirms etc. Of course you cannot do all that on one character but what do you have 6 character slots for? You're very unlikely to get bored when you are exploring every corner of VO...
Jul 09, 2014 Faceof link
Ok ...and anyway guys ....that post was an angry disappointment when RABII telling me hes stop playing (as and many others lately..)...i hate every time to have any conversation with this guys....u know me ....always i try to help and to keep players in game ...i fret /worry every time when happen this....

Also for me ...i have many things to do in VO ...for example now i working for my ingame wealth and this may takes a little more time...

But ...glad to see incarnate to answer this thread and for "We'll have some major announcements coming up shortly, I just don't want to jump the gun on them."

Cheers....
Jul 11, 2014 draugath link
Incarnate said:
if I had a bunch more people ... who were on yearly subs


Hmm, I suppose that makes sense, since that account is a known quantity for a longer period of time with more money up front. I for one have stuck with monthly payments for the very reason that it puts more money in your pocket in the long-term, and on a month-to-month basis I can justify it. Though I can also often afford a yearly subscription (just not at the moment).
Jul 11, 2014 Phaserlight link
that post was an angry disappointment when RABII telling me hes stop playing

If your general satisfaction with VO depends on the way other people are enjoying the game, buckle up for one hell of a ride.

/2c :-)

Inc., please do stay in business. Vendetta is legendary, and although I have very little time for gaming these days, this is one of my few "go-to" experiences. I'm not holding on to the past or anything like that, it's just... rare, to find a game that can hold somebody's attention for over a decade.

Like, the only other two activities I'd rank it with would be Chess and martial arts.
Jul 14, 2014 incarnate link
Hmm, I suppose that makes sense, since that account is a known quantity for a longer period of time with more money up front. I for one have stuck with monthly payments for the very reason that it puts more money in your pocket in the long-term, and on a month-to-month basis I can justify it.

Well, I really just meant "subscribers" as opposed to those on yearly subs specifically. If I had more consistent subscribers.