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ubuntu 6 hard reboot crash

Jun 30, 2006 ananzi link
during the loading, with little stars on bottom lefthand side, it just froze for a while.

couldnt press any keys, couldnt even get capslock to work. couldnt alt-tab, ctrl-alt-del, esc, nothing.

had to hit the reset switch.

hooray for rock solid linux, which can be destroyed by a video game, the same complaint i had with it 10 years ago and i was assured that 'people were working on that'. laugh!

the last line in errors.log says that it is using 800x600x24 instead of 800x600x32 or something. no segfault indication no nothing.
Jun 30, 2006 roguelazer link
Technically, the video game isn't crashing anything. It's the video drivers, which have access to the hardware. Anyhow, Did you try the magic SysRq stuff? As to the 24-bit vs 32-bit thing, that's a bit odd, since X -never- supports 32-bit. I've never seen any complaints about that.

Maybe some information about hardware and software configuration? Possibly?
Jul 02, 2006 yodaofborg link
Isnt 32 bit colour actually only 24 bit colour with alpha channels? :>
Jul 03, 2006 roguelazer link
Yeah. Hence why X doesn't support it- alpha is done with different magic.
Jul 12, 2006 ananzi link
magic sysreq is great but im using an apple mac keyboard on my wintel box (switching back and forth between mac and win). (and no, apple keyboards do not have printscreen keys)

and im too damn lazy to go farting around trying to solve this. linux has had this issue for 15 years and im not going to fix it. i am, however, going to mock and insult it.
Jul 13, 2006 Antz link
As stated before it is the video driver that causes it, not Linux itself. Closed source, evil nvidia (or ati, ...) thing that hooks into your pure and open kernel to do nasty things in the kernel address space. Of course that Linux allows it to could be blamed as a design fault of the kernel itself...

There is not much you can do to fix it but either ask driver manufacturer to get it fixed, or do not use their drivers. Former is unlikely to be satisfied, and the latter will not get you the desired performance. So, you are stuck. At least that is how it works for me. So yes, all we can do is to complain how bad crashing computers are and throw some blame around :-D

To be honest this sort of crashes are becoming decreasingly common. I have not had a complete lock up on Linux for many months now, and since Suse 10.1 got released I have been using XGL non-stop with very few negative side effects. It crashes out of X no more than about once a month, which is acceptable to me.
Jul 14, 2006 Aleksey link
I have a lot of such crashes these days =(

I play sometime and the game just freezes, and I have to hit reset. And btw I'm using opensource driver radeon for Radeon9200
Jul 15, 2006 roguelazer link
Then it's probably a hardware problem with your motherboard, video card, or [very likely] your AGP adapter.

I've never had a hard crash under Linux, not even when I've done some very stupid things (unmerging both mesa and the nvidia drivers while running X...), and my system's not exactly running on stable-line code...
Jul 15, 2006 thurisaz link
Aleksey, have you tried using the closed binary driver?
Jul 15, 2006 Aleksey link
I tried to play on Windows and it runs fine, so it's hardly a hardware problem.

I tried closed source driver but couldn't manage it to work ^^
Jul 18, 2006 yodaofborg link
How recently have you tried Aleksey? Because although the ATI drivers are far from perfect (hell, the nVidia driver is far from perfect, and its considered at least stable :<) but the recent updates to it have at least made installation a little bit nicer, although I still have issues with it on my notebook screen (its not the default manu screen, I kinda dropped it) it did work first time, I just had to add some modelines, and voila, working closed source and very ebil drivers.

But meh, then I swapped out my GFX card for an nVidia one :>
Jul 18, 2006 mr_spuck link
Yeah the binary drivers finally work really stable here too. Took a bit of fiddling and I had to disable agp 8x support. But my 9550 probably doesn't profit from that anyway. :P
Aug 11, 2006 ananzi link
dear whoever

im not using a 'binary driver'. im using default ubuntu install on some on-the-motherboard el cheapo video that didnt cost me a months pay.

i want vengeance! torvalds emigrates to america, abandons finnish socialism, short-sells his stock in transmeta so he can scam idiots who were buying during the bubble, pretends he did nothing wrong, and now his stupid 2.6 kernel is full of bugs. not to mention the incessant infighting over filesystems, and the stupidity media ass licking like putting an httpd in the kernel and fucking over response time in favor of throughput.

at least he proved one thing. hitler was totally wrong about that 'superior white race' thing.

ultima thule my ass. more like ultima fool, or 'dull time at school', which is what happens when you buy into this linux revolution garbage. you have a dull time in college.
Aug 12, 2006 terribleCabbage link
I've hit the problem before. It's basically your machine running out of RAM and hitting swap instead. Everything still works... Slowly. So slowly that you'd need to go and make a cup of tea and come back before seeing any change.

I was at 384MB of RAM before, but added another 128MB, and hadn't had the problem since (for the last four months).

Well... Until this morning. Me, and a bunch of other players had started experiencing 'crashes' similar to the above when using the new HUD. Not sure what's going on here - maybe Solra or someone equally equipped can figure out how much memory VO is taking up now with the new HUD compared to the old.
Aug 12, 2006 roguelazer link
Don't feed the trolls.
Aug 12, 2006 terribleCabbage link
Rogue:

A) I was responding to his first, non-trollish post.
B) Myself and a few other players are starting to experience the same problem again.

Ananzi: Why do you hate freedom? ;)
Aug 24, 2006 ananzi link
The same reason that you hate our troops.
Dec 17, 2007 cebrimal link
I'm having this problem. The game updates and launches. The 'loading screen' with the stars, seems to suddenly resize the BG 'loadin' image inside the window and proceeds to freeze the entire computer. I tried running in Windowed mode to watch for errors in the terminal window, but alas, nothing shows up.

Linux Xubuntu 7.10
Radeon 9200 - opendrivers as it's the only way to get 6000fps on glgears.
1GHZ processor with 512MB Ram.

I tried waiting for like 1/2 an hour, nothing freed up.

The only line in the error.log which looks like it could be influencing it is:

"caught SIGSEGV; generating stack trace
fault address 0000001f, 00000000"
Dec 18, 2007 cebrimal link
I think I managed to resolve the problem. As I tried other games which all crashed as well, I knew it was not Vendetta Online.

After playing around with drivers etc, for another hour or so, I managed to get other games working well. But I removed Vendetta at some point and am running the update again over my dial-up. So if I don't post again, it is resolved.