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Our contract with RED is of the understanding that TGFT is to remain neutral in station conflicts. Neutral is defined as not attacking, defending, or interfering with station attacks or defenses.
Tonight, Surbius Bondevo, TGFT leadership breached that rule by interfering with FAMY's contracted efforts for the Serco empire.
TGFT was properly informed that the neutrality only covered station attacks and defenses, and normal warranties would still be required to operate safely in any sector where FAMY agents are present.
As a result of this transgression, TGFT warranties are nullified and not eligible for renewal. I have it on good sources that TGFT is in the process of building several capital ships currently, so while this may not matter to Ecka or Surb, I guarantee it matters to the rank and file TGFT members.
I strongly urge TGFT leadership to contact myself or TheRedSpy to settle this dispute before it escalates into a perpetual KOS designation for all TGFT members.
Tonight, Surbius Bondevo, TGFT leadership breached that rule by interfering with FAMY's contracted efforts for the Serco empire.
TGFT was properly informed that the neutrality only covered station attacks and defenses, and normal warranties would still be required to operate safely in any sector where FAMY agents are present.
As a result of this transgression, TGFT warranties are nullified and not eligible for renewal. I have it on good sources that TGFT is in the process of building several capital ships currently, so while this may not matter to Ecka or Surb, I guarantee it matters to the rank and file TGFT members.
I strongly urge TGFT leadership to contact myself or TheRedSpy to settle this dispute before it escalates into a perpetual KOS designation for all TGFT members.
Be warned Free Traders, joining with the Coalition of Itan in station assault is an act of Nationalism and you will be considered Itani conspirators and hunted down wherever you reside.
I have assurances that Surbius Bondevo was acting without the authority of his guild. Allying yourself with a known Itani sympathizer like the scourge Interstellar makes you a target to the serco dominion.
These filthy smurf allies seek to give the Coalition of Itan exclusive access to conquerable stations and deny them to the glorious sons of the dominion. I call on all true sons of the Dominion to rise up against them and show no mercy!
They use pathetic excuses about piracy as the foundation of their criticism of the glorious RED Eternal Dominion.
I will say this, no [RED] tags have ever attacked a neutral trader nor will they ever. We reserve the right to take any means necessary to secure the freedom of all sons of the Dominion through the destruction of the foul Coalition of Itan and its pathetic dishonourable allies that would make excuses to cover their loss and incompetence.
The days of the Itani are no more. There is a reckoning coming, and no Itani shall survive the purifying might of the RED sea.
DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR!
I have assurances that Surbius Bondevo was acting without the authority of his guild. Allying yourself with a known Itani sympathizer like the scourge Interstellar makes you a target to the serco dominion.
These filthy smurf allies seek to give the Coalition of Itan exclusive access to conquerable stations and deny them to the glorious sons of the dominion. I call on all true sons of the Dominion to rise up against them and show no mercy!
They use pathetic excuses about piracy as the foundation of their criticism of the glorious RED Eternal Dominion.
I will say this, no [RED] tags have ever attacked a neutral trader nor will they ever. We reserve the right to take any means necessary to secure the freedom of all sons of the Dominion through the destruction of the foul Coalition of Itan and its pathetic dishonourable allies that would make excuses to cover their loss and incompetence.
The days of the Itani are no more. There is a reckoning coming, and no Itani shall survive the purifying might of the RED sea.
DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR!
1. RED has already stated that they will start attacking VPR and Itani members of neutral guilds and they have already stated that they will use FAMY as their muscle against Itan so.............
They use pathetic excuses about piracy as the foundation of their criticism of the glorious RED Eternal Dominion.
Not sure why it's so hard to understand how that makes you closed to criticism of piracy.
2. Allying yourself with a known Itani sympathizer like the scourge Interstellar makes you a target to the serco dominion.
You know, I do have some Itani friends and I do have some Serco friends. I sympathize with both of them. I have been told that [ONE] (The only true serco nationalist guild) has decided to stay out of station defenses. Since I see RED as being more like SAS in that they are basically just a small portion of a rat guild and trying to be like a mix of dishonorable rats and dishonorable nationalists I don't see RED as a nationalist guild but instead as more of an unhonorable loud mouth force of pirates and wannabe nationalists going around pushing people around.
I don't know where you learned the definition of honorable but here:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/honorable
As far as I can tell RED nor FAMY fall under either of those definitions.
Anyways, carry on with your lies and false banter......
~Interstellar
Commander of the Phoenix Alliance
They use pathetic excuses about piracy as the foundation of their criticism of the glorious RED Eternal Dominion.
Not sure why it's so hard to understand how that makes you closed to criticism of piracy.
2. Allying yourself with a known Itani sympathizer like the scourge Interstellar makes you a target to the serco dominion.
You know, I do have some Itani friends and I do have some Serco friends. I sympathize with both of them. I have been told that [ONE] (The only true serco nationalist guild) has decided to stay out of station defenses. Since I see RED as being more like SAS in that they are basically just a small portion of a rat guild and trying to be like a mix of dishonorable rats and dishonorable nationalists I don't see RED as a nationalist guild but instead as more of an unhonorable loud mouth force of pirates and wannabe nationalists going around pushing people around.
I don't know where you learned the definition of honorable but here:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/honorable
As far as I can tell RED nor FAMY fall under either of those definitions.
Anyways, carry on with your lies and false banter......
~Interstellar
Commander of the Phoenix Alliance
RED has already stated that they will start attacking VPR and Itani members of neutral guilds and they have already stated that they will use FAMY as their muscle against Itan so.............
I am a lieutenant of RED and I am stating quite clearly now that you are full of lies, smurf. Save your lies for those foolish enough to believe them.
RED requires evidence of nationalism against the dominion to make one a target, and evidence of nationalism FOR the dominion to make one an ally.
Your lies are pathetic and transparent. Itan will label anybody a pirate guild so that they can manipulate people to fighting their battles for them. You are no better than FAMY, Interstellar, except you are fighting Itan's battles for free.
What a fool you are.
I am a lieutenant of RED and I am stating quite clearly now that you are full of lies, smurf. Save your lies for those foolish enough to believe them.
RED requires evidence of nationalism against the dominion to make one a target, and evidence of nationalism FOR the dominion to make one an ally.
Your lies are pathetic and transparent. Itan will label anybody a pirate guild so that they can manipulate people to fighting their battles for them. You are no better than FAMY, Interstellar, except you are fighting Itan's battles for free.
What a fool you are.
Sleeping with both sides of a conflict doesn't make you neutral, it makes you a whore. And no Serco guild who cooperates with Itanis can be considered a true nationalist guild.
So, I'm dirty as a Swiss? I can live with that.
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PhoenixVoice:
RED stated that they would attack VPR under conditions, you apparently see fit to ignore that caveat.
Specifically, RED would attack VPR in sectors of national struggle (Station Captures and defenses). I don't see why VPR gets to enter a specific conflict AND maintain its neutrality.
And why would RED ignore itani affiliated with neutral guilds? They will hardly be at the top of the food chain (the prime itani force will always come first), but they are either sympathizers to the itani cause, or traitors to it. In either case, they are despicable.
PhoenixVoice:
RED stated that they would attack VPR under conditions, you apparently see fit to ignore that caveat.
Specifically, RED would attack VPR in sectors of national struggle (Station Captures and defenses). I don't see why VPR gets to enter a specific conflict AND maintain its neutrality.
And why would RED ignore itani affiliated with neutral guilds? They will hardly be at the top of the food chain (the prime itani force will always come first), but they are either sympathizers to the itani cause, or traitors to it. In either case, they are despicable.
As Shape:
So, now it is the sons and daughters of itan that get to pass judgement on the true Serco nationalist guild?
Seems fair.
So, now it is the sons and daughters of itan that get to pass judgement on the true Serco nationalist guild?
Seems fair.
INCOMING TRANSMISSION: The Bractus Liberation Front
ATTN: All enemies of freedom.
For too long, groups like the Phoenix Alliance, VPR, ITAN and others have tried to exert their influence over Gray Space. While it is true that Corvus is the BLF's primary enemy, there are bigger threats. I urge all denizens of Gray Space to rise up and present a united front against our common enemies.
Most of all, I urge ONE to remember the GLORY AND HONOR of days of old. Recall the days of when the stations were first found, recall when they flew side by side with the BLF and CHRN... first in capturing Latos and later in defending it against incursion by ITAN, TGFT, VPR and PA.
Look into your souls and reclaim the glory of our small force routing an army in Latos. We are Serco, it does not matter if other, lesser nations or guilds acknowledge our honor or the honor of our allies. The Itani started this war when they tried and failed to exterminate every Serco man woman and child. We drove them from our world and sent them running.
I call on all loyal Serco... join all of us who fight for true freedom. Join us and purge the Itani from our space. Join us and drive the traitors and collaborators back to where their evil will tolerated, for they will NOT be tolerated in FREE GRAY SPACE!
ATTN: All enemies of freedom.
For too long, groups like the Phoenix Alliance, VPR, ITAN and others have tried to exert their influence over Gray Space. While it is true that Corvus is the BLF's primary enemy, there are bigger threats. I urge all denizens of Gray Space to rise up and present a united front against our common enemies.
Most of all, I urge ONE to remember the GLORY AND HONOR of days of old. Recall the days of when the stations were first found, recall when they flew side by side with the BLF and CHRN... first in capturing Latos and later in defending it against incursion by ITAN, TGFT, VPR and PA.
Look into your souls and reclaim the glory of our small force routing an army in Latos. We are Serco, it does not matter if other, lesser nations or guilds acknowledge our honor or the honor of our allies. The Itani started this war when they tried and failed to exterminate every Serco man woman and child. We drove them from our world and sent them running.
I call on all loyal Serco... join all of us who fight for true freedom. Join us and purge the Itani from our space. Join us and drive the traitors and collaborators back to where their evil will tolerated, for they will NOT be tolerated in FREE GRAY SPACE!
I've heard all the usual propaganda from people like Interstellar before. Its okay to be a carebear but not okay to be true serco. The next time you open your mouth to spread slander, will be the day all of your members (whats left of them, if any) will be regarded as enemies of the Dominion.
Ok, so honor is needing pirates to do all your hard work for you?
I watched the entire conversation on 100 where Matriarch was telling VPR that since RED had hired rats and those rats where doing all the work for RED and that RED is some kind of serco military force then vpr should not attack famy or it would be considered a nationalist activity (as if RED is special or something). Of course VPR were all like stfu newb and Matriarch was like ok we shall kill you all when we are doing stuff with famy so VPR will be killed by RED in those events but RED shouldn't be considered a pirate guild kinda like if any of us do anything with Itan then we shouldn't be considered an Itani nationalist guild even though RED is KOS for being a pirate guild that's trying to be a nationalist guild and thinks that honor simply means killing everyone who's not serco or directly helping serco only and not something like honorable deeds and acts which deserve respect.
And I have heard all the BS lies from people claiming to be honorable and powerful yet they only push themselves on people and act like dicks and morons. I guess it's times like these when peoples true colors start shining through. You know, I was actually excited when it seemed that the Serco were starting to come back and become more powerful and then (like always) someone thought it's a good idea to go and start involving pirates in the mix for strategies like "famy will hold off Itan while we aren't logged on," and expect that to be cool and honorable and make them a powerful guild that everyone should just bow down to.
But hey, it's cool, I mean it's only a game right? You can make believe (RP) that honor is what you want and that you get to determine what is true and not. Hell, why do you stop at non serco? Why don't you include Serco that don't do exactly what you say when you say it to your oh so scary "enemies of the Dominion" list?
I hope that I am already on your enemies of the Dominion list because I can tell you one thing, I can tell you more about the honor of the Mighty Serco Dominion than you can ever dream about knowing and I am Itani. I think you guys should go back to the uplinks in Sol II and redownload the information about the True Serco Dominion and what honor really is and what it means and why it is you do what you do and what really makes you who you are because you are really really making the Itani look ALOT more honorable and mighty and they don't really have to do anything.
You guys might have had a chance at making the Serco look good if you would have just joined ONE and made a true Mighty "SERCO" force. But alas, you made a dinky wannabe SAS nationalist guild that requires FAMY and other rats to survive. Sometimes I really do feel bad for all the true serious serco nationalists that continue to get dicked over by jackoffs like yourselves. You should be ashamed of yourselves. The only thing you have done to effect Itan is take away a true serious Serco Opposition and instead replaced it with more of the same old famy stupidity.
You can try and turn it on me that I do all that Itan wants me to do and how I am a puppet and how my guild is dead and how blah blah blah but at least I'm not claiming to be something I'm not.
Anyways, I think I have defiled the lies in this thread with enough truth to see it to its end.
~Interstellar
Commander of the Phoenix Alliance
I watched the entire conversation on 100 where Matriarch was telling VPR that since RED had hired rats and those rats where doing all the work for RED and that RED is some kind of serco military force then vpr should not attack famy or it would be considered a nationalist activity (as if RED is special or something). Of course VPR were all like stfu newb and Matriarch was like ok we shall kill you all when we are doing stuff with famy so VPR will be killed by RED in those events but RED shouldn't be considered a pirate guild kinda like if any of us do anything with Itan then we shouldn't be considered an Itani nationalist guild even though RED is KOS for being a pirate guild that's trying to be a nationalist guild and thinks that honor simply means killing everyone who's not serco or directly helping serco only and not something like honorable deeds and acts which deserve respect.
And I have heard all the BS lies from people claiming to be honorable and powerful yet they only push themselves on people and act like dicks and morons. I guess it's times like these when peoples true colors start shining through. You know, I was actually excited when it seemed that the Serco were starting to come back and become more powerful and then (like always) someone thought it's a good idea to go and start involving pirates in the mix for strategies like "famy will hold off Itan while we aren't logged on," and expect that to be cool and honorable and make them a powerful guild that everyone should just bow down to.
But hey, it's cool, I mean it's only a game right? You can make believe (RP) that honor is what you want and that you get to determine what is true and not. Hell, why do you stop at non serco? Why don't you include Serco that don't do exactly what you say when you say it to your oh so scary "enemies of the Dominion" list?
I hope that I am already on your enemies of the Dominion list because I can tell you one thing, I can tell you more about the honor of the Mighty Serco Dominion than you can ever dream about knowing and I am Itani. I think you guys should go back to the uplinks in Sol II and redownload the information about the True Serco Dominion and what honor really is and what it means and why it is you do what you do and what really makes you who you are because you are really really making the Itani look ALOT more honorable and mighty and they don't really have to do anything.
You guys might have had a chance at making the Serco look good if you would have just joined ONE and made a true Mighty "SERCO" force. But alas, you made a dinky wannabe SAS nationalist guild that requires FAMY and other rats to survive. Sometimes I really do feel bad for all the true serious serco nationalists that continue to get dicked over by jackoffs like yourselves. You should be ashamed of yourselves. The only thing you have done to effect Itan is take away a true serious Serco Opposition and instead replaced it with more of the same old famy stupidity.
You can try and turn it on me that I do all that Itan wants me to do and how I am a puppet and how my guild is dead and how blah blah blah but at least I'm not claiming to be something I'm not.
Anyways, I think I have defiled the lies in this thread with enough truth to see it to its end.
~Interstellar
Commander of the Phoenix Alliance
PhoenixVoice, that was a long, and rambling post...
I'm going to do you a favor and not just respond with a "Was there a cohesive point in there somewhere?" and actually try to respond to some of your points.
I saw a lot of "You guys are just a bunch of dicks", And this is why I ignored you in game, you (and to be honest, a number of people in this game, on my side and the other) have a problem being respectful to adversaries. You don't have to 1v1 people, you can gank and take objectives and be sneaky about it, but the tone has gotten really nasty, and there's no reason for it.
The reason I bring it up is quotes like this:
"But hey, it's cool, I mean it's only a game right? You can make believe (RP) that honor is what you want and that you get to determine what is true and not. Hell, why do you stop at non serco? Why don't you include Serco that don't do exactly what you say when you say it to your oh so scary "enemies of the Dominion" list? "
Here it becomes clear that your real issue is with the players, not the characters they play.
Don't do that. Don't pretend you know us, or know what kind of people we are.
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Now, to respond to the continued aspersions against our honor. Let me define what honor means to us. We may fall short in this from time to time (Tensions can run high), but this is our ideal, what we want people in our guild to uphold:
1) Death is no big thing in this game,
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Respect when someone else has won and be gracious. This means that if you start a fight, and you're losing, you damn well better go out in a blaze of glory.
2) Meet force with equal or lesser force. If there's one player and you have 6, send 1 player out to fight. If there are 2, send 2.
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Not only does this encourage our pilots to get better, but it also guarantees that the people we're fighting against have a good time. No one takes their free time and says "I want to jump into a sector and get destroyed 10 times in succession"
It doesn't mean dueling, but it does mean to try to keep the teams equal.
3) Don't use a build designed to frustrate.
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If you're not bombing an objective, there is no reason to be carrying pet beeps on your ship. Pet beeps have the effect of dispersing combat, not encouraging it it. We want to encourage combat as much as possible.
4) Always challenge yourself
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Don't stick to what's easy just because it gets results
I hope this explains, to some degree what we're interested in doing.
I'm going to do you a favor and not just respond with a "Was there a cohesive point in there somewhere?" and actually try to respond to some of your points.
I saw a lot of "You guys are just a bunch of dicks", And this is why I ignored you in game, you (and to be honest, a number of people in this game, on my side and the other) have a problem being respectful to adversaries. You don't have to 1v1 people, you can gank and take objectives and be sneaky about it, but the tone has gotten really nasty, and there's no reason for it.
The reason I bring it up is quotes like this:
"But hey, it's cool, I mean it's only a game right? You can make believe (RP) that honor is what you want and that you get to determine what is true and not. Hell, why do you stop at non serco? Why don't you include Serco that don't do exactly what you say when you say it to your oh so scary "enemies of the Dominion" list? "
Here it becomes clear that your real issue is with the players, not the characters they play.
Don't do that. Don't pretend you know us, or know what kind of people we are.
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Now, to respond to the continued aspersions against our honor. Let me define what honor means to us. We may fall short in this from time to time (Tensions can run high), but this is our ideal, what we want people in our guild to uphold:
1) Death is no big thing in this game,
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Respect when someone else has won and be gracious. This means that if you start a fight, and you're losing, you damn well better go out in a blaze of glory.
2) Meet force with equal or lesser force. If there's one player and you have 6, send 1 player out to fight. If there are 2, send 2.
---------------------------------------------------
Not only does this encourage our pilots to get better, but it also guarantees that the people we're fighting against have a good time. No one takes their free time and says "I want to jump into a sector and get destroyed 10 times in succession"
It doesn't mean dueling, but it does mean to try to keep the teams equal.
3) Don't use a build designed to frustrate.
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If you're not bombing an objective, there is no reason to be carrying pet beeps on your ship. Pet beeps have the effect of dispersing combat, not encouraging it it. We want to encourage combat as much as possible.
4) Always challenge yourself
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Don't stick to what's easy just because it gets results
I hope this explains, to some degree what we're interested in doing.
"And I have heard all the BS lies from people claiming to be honorable and powerful yet they only push themselves on people and act like dicks and morons."
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
Coming from you... this is meaningless, hilarious, incredulous and ridiculous.
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
Coming from you... this is meaningless, hilarious, incredulous and ridiculous.
Shape, why did you come back to VO? Was it just to act like a know it all? All you have done since you have been back is act like you are on some kind of high horse above everyone and bitch about shit in posts that are constantly as big or much bigger than mine.
Also, nowhere in my post did I attack the players. I have never crossed the line to attacking people in RL. Never. I am not afraid of your hollow RL threats against me and if I wanted to threaten you in RL it wouldn't be in some game forum post.
Don't do that. Don't pretend you know us, or know what kind of people we are.
This tells me all I need to know about what kind of "people" YOU are.
~Interstellar
Commander of the Phoenix Alliance
Also, nowhere in my post did I attack the players. I have never crossed the line to attacking people in RL. Never. I am not afraid of your hollow RL threats against me and if I wanted to threaten you in RL it wouldn't be in some game forum post.
Don't do that. Don't pretend you know us, or know what kind of people we are.
This tells me all I need to know about what kind of "people" YOU are.
~Interstellar
Commander of the Phoenix Alliance
Shape, fewer words. You're boring. Of course I DO need more sleep, so prattle on! ;)
...who is everbody?
Don't worry about it. Espionage is a graphic artist after all. It's not as though spelling is a prerequisite.
lulz yer im not changin that it's obviously a typo.
lulz
lulz
Interstellar:
Instead of responding to any of my points, you continue the same flaming. I've seen nothing in your posts that makes you any less of a pretentious know-it-all than I am. Except you seem to spend your time looking for people to piss off.
Hypocrisy much?
Mommy not giving you enough attention? Got to get it from the online community?
Keller:
My apologies, I wasn't aware you were reading.
Instead of responding to any of my points, you continue the same flaming. I've seen nothing in your posts that makes you any less of a pretentious know-it-all than I am. Except you seem to spend your time looking for people to piss off.
Hypocrisy much?
Mommy not giving you enough attention? Got to get it from the online community?
Keller:
My apologies, I wasn't aware you were reading.