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Jun 11, 2003 Renegade ++RIP++ link
stays silent,

and we will see what will come

cheers
Jun 11, 2003 roguelazer link
Don't go off topic of we'll be locked by the Mysterious Moderator Fella.
Jun 11, 2003 Icarus link
LOL... I saw this lot talking about all that crap when i was playing yesturday, and i was thinking that any minute a Guide would shut them up cos it was blatently offensive... Obviously i was wrong... How many guides are there? There are clearly not enough...

Jun 11, 2003 Celebrim link
Don't you just hate when Vendetta is used as a chat room?

For the record, I think that everyone involved in the conversation was guilty as charged. Vendetta is not a political forum. If someone is being stupid, why are you talking with them? Who is the bigger fool: the fool or the fool who entertains a fool?
Jun 11, 2003 Renegade ++RIP++ link
actually I never hated it, if somebody uses it as a chatroom. At least if we get to some flying or playing the game.

It encourages socialness and wasn't that one of your prime things that had to be in a MMORPG celebrim? (please don'tflail me if I am a little bit wrong, but I thought i read it somewhere a whole time ago, so if I'm wrong just blame my memory ;))

So in short, I have to agree with celebrim, if you see people like that , please for all that is holy don't say anything, and then he will stop and not feel interesting and just play the game ;)

cheers
Jun 11, 2003 Jorus link
Please tell me i'm not the only one who finds something just the LEAST bit wrong with how both those chat logs played out. More so with the second one. Personally I think the guides are doing a great job, and there can't be to many of them. Although as a community we can kill crap like that ourselves, there is a mute command, and if they continue to blatently abuse the priviledge of chat, then I think they shouldn't be allowed to chat. We are beta testing a game, its one thing to come online and chat with those friends, but another to come on just to create a stinkin AOL likeness chat room.
Jun 11, 2003 furball link
Mind being a little bit more specific Jorus? :) IE what's wrong either either of the chat logs?
Jun 11, 2003 Arolte link
Example #1: Excessive cursing and filter dodging.

[Wed Jun 11 11:28:26 2003] 8080ff<Dark Vador> i fuck every one
[Wed Jun 11 11:28:39 2003] 00ffffPress the Activate key to dock.
[Wed Jun 11 11:28:43 2003] 8080ff<Dark Vador> i'm the best i
[Wed Jun 11 11:28:48 2003] ff0000<BearBurP> ************ ****** ** * * ****** ** !!!!!
[Wed Jun 11 11:28:59 2003] ff0000<BearBurP> ****
[Wed Jun 11 11:29:01 2003] 8080ff<Dark Vador> every one suck my mother fucker dick
[Wed Jun 11 11:29:01 2003] ff0000<BearBurP> ****
[Wed Jun 11 11:29:03 2003] ff0000<BearBurP> *****
[Wed Jun 11 11:29:11 2003] ff0000<Grim Battol> You die again, D4k.
[Wed Jun 11 11:29:13 2003] ffff00<Arolte> good to know the guides are doing their job
[Wed Jun 11 11:29:15 2003] ff0000<Grim Battol> You shall die again.
[Wed Jun 11 11:29:19 2003] ffff00<Commander Jameson> "Grim Battol" your call :)
[Wed Jun 11 11:29:26 2003] ff0000<Grim Battol> Muahahahaaaaa!
[Wed Jun 11 11:29:30 2003] 8080ff<D4rK_4gE[ul-T]> ************* ****** **** * * **
[Wed Jun 11 11:29:32 2003] ff0000Grim Battol kills all lamers.
[Wed Jun 11 11:29:33 2003] 40ff40*Commander Jameson* you really can trust "Grim Battol" ...
[Wed Jun 11 11:29:36 2003] ff0000<BearBurP> dark kill my avion
[Wed Jun 11 11:29:39 2003] 80ff80->Commander Jameson: not really[Wed Jun 11 11:29:41 2003] ff0000<Grim Battol> "D4rK_4gE[ul-T]" = LAMER!
[Wed Jun 11 11:29:43 2003] 8080ff<D4rK_4gE[ul-T]> u want to die??
[Wed Jun 11 11:29:45 2003] 80ff80->Commander Jameson: he unprovoked attacked me many a time[Wed Jun 11 11:29:48 2003] ff0000<BearBurP> yes !
[Wed Jun 11 11:29:51 2003] 8080ff<Dark Vador> i fuck all you're mother fucker bithies
[Wed Jun 11 11:29:57 2003] 40ff40*Commander Jameson* I see..
[Wed Jun 11 11:29:59 2003] 00ffffPress the Activate key to enter wormhole to sector 12.
[Wed Jun 11 11:30:05 2003] 8080ff<D4rK_4gE[ul-T]> FUK U FUKING NOOB I FUK YOUR MOTHER LAST DAY
[Wed Jun 11 11:30:07 2003] 40ff40*Commander Jameson* well.. he's a pirate, but he's no griefer
[Wed Jun 11 11:30:08 2003] you are entering sector 12
[Wed Jun 11 11:30:11 2003] ff0000<Grim Battol> Hehehe.
[Wed Jun 11 11:30:12 2003] 00ffffPress the Activate key to enter wormhole to sector 5.
[Wed Jun 11 11:30:16 2003] ff0000<Grim Battol> Go on. It's funny to listen to.
[Wed Jun 11 11:30:19 2003] 40ff40*Commander Jameson* and he's honourable
[Wed Jun 11 11:30:22 2003] ff0000<Caerdydd> what is this "bring a retard to the net cafe day"
[Wed Jun 11 11:30:30 2003] 40ffff(Gold) [12] <Arolte> reds in 13
[Wed Jun 11 11:30:33 2003] ffff00<MotraX> i got 12%
[Wed Jun 11 11:30:37 2003] 40ffff(Gold) [12] <Arolte> possible gold cap imminent
[Wed Jun 11 11:30:38 2003] ff0000<BearBurP> give me a item
[Wed Jun 11 11:30:40 2003] 40ffff(Gold) [13] <hachikyu> they r aftrer me
[Wed Jun 11 11:30:43 2003] 40ffff(Gold) [12] <Arolte> ok
[Wed Jun 11 11:30:47 2003] ff0000<BearBurP> to kill DARK !!!
[Wed Jun 11 11:30:54 2003] 40ffff(Gold) [6] <Commander Jameson> mine shall I mine the flag?
[Wed Jun 11 11:31:01 2003] Arolte is having issues.
[Wed Jun 11 11:31:01 2003] Arolte destroyed Watson
[Wed Jun 11 11:31:02 2003] ffff00<Arolte> oops
[Wed Jun 11 11:31:04 2003] ffff00<Arolte> lol
[Wed Jun 11 11:31:04 2003] you are entering sector 5
[Wed Jun 11 11:31:04 2003] Returning to home station...
[Wed Jun 11 11:31:09 2003] ff0000<Grim Battol> Heheheeeeee.
[Wed Jun 11 11:31:20 2003] 8080ff<D4rK_4gE[ul-T]> i am sorry
[Wed Jun 11 11:31:21 2003] ffff00<hachikyu> weeeee
[Wed Jun 11 11:31:26 2003] ff0000<Grim Battol> Really sorry??
[Wed Jun 11 11:31:27 2003] ff0000<BearBurP> connard
[Wed Jun 11 11:31:27 2003] ff0000<Blitz> no lemmings on me this time
[Wed Jun 11 11:31:28 2003] ff0000<LeathaL> "Arolte" if u got balls come to 14
[Wed Jun 11 11:31:32 2003] ff0000<Watson> Damn ramer
[Wed Jun 11 11:31:32 2003] ffff00<hachikyu> hehe
[Wed Jun 11 11:31:35 2003] ff0000<BearBurP> tu fou la merde
[Wed Jun 11 11:31:36 2003] 00ffffPress the Activate key to dock.
[Wed Jun 11 11:31:38 2003] ffff00<Commander Jameson> Great balls of fire
[Wed Jun 11 11:31:40 2003] ff0000<Grim Battol> Are you really sorry, d4rK?
[Wed Jun 11 11:31:40 2003] ff0000<BearBurP> pff
[Wed Jun 11 11:31:40 2003] ff0000<LeathaL> we will fight
[Wed Jun 11 11:31:41 2003] ffff00<hachikyu> meh
[Wed Jun 11 11:31:41 2003] 8080ff<D4rK_4gE[ul-T]> but its the only that i can do fror duel good player :(
[Wed Jun 11 11:31:48 2003] ffff00<Arolte> damn promy jockey :)
[Wed Jun 11 11:31:50 2003] ff0000<BearBurP> lol
[Wed Jun 11 11:31:51 2003] ff0000<BearBurP> lol
[Wed Jun 11 11:31:53 2003] ff0000<BearBurP> lol
[Wed Jun 11 11:31:54 2003] ff0000<BearBurP> lol
[Wed Jun 11 11:31:54 2003] ff0000<Grim Battol> Heh. Do you want to duel me?
[Wed Jun 11 11:31:55 2003] ff0000<BearBurP> qlol
[Wed Jun 11 11:31:58 2003] ff0000<Blitz> "Arolte" damn sucky player :D
[Wed Jun 11 11:32:00 2003] ff0000<Grim Battol> You'll lose, you know.
[Wed Jun 11 11:32:03 2003] ff0000<BearBurP> he is a noob !
[Wed Jun 11 11:32:04 2003] 8080ff<<TRADE>-no fight> can blue kill other blue
[Wed Jun 11 11:32:06 2003] ffff00<Arolte> is that why you died and ran, blitzy? :(
[Wed Jun 11 11:32:11 2003] ff0000<Watson> I wont say more
[Wed Jun 11 11:32:19 2003] 8080ff<<TRADE>-no fight> I mean the stupid one
[Wed Jun 11 11:32:25 2003] ff0000<LeathaL> "Arolte" U loser come to fight me in 14 in a real fight
[Wed Jun 11 11:32:28 2003] ff0000<Blitz> "Arolte" i died cuz i couldnt shoot and you were 2...
[Wed Jun 11 11:32:32 2003] ff0000<BearBurP> dark est con
[Wed Jun 11 11:32:34 2003] ff0000<Blitz> and YOU were the one who ran
[Wed Jun 11 11:32:38 2003] ffff00<Arolte> rofl
[Wed Jun 11 11:32:45 2003] ff0000<Grim Battol> /ignore Arolte
[Wed Jun 11 11:32:46 2003] ffff00<Arolte> blitzy is just full of excuses today :D
[Wed Jun 11 11:32:47 2003] ffff00<Distephano> oh man der leathal geht mir so auf die Eier
[Wed Jun 11 11:32:49 2003] ff0000<BearBurP> rodolf ?!
[Wed Jun 11 11:32:51 2003] ff0000<Bernhard> "MotraX" ?
[Wed Jun 11 11:33:01 2003] ff0000<LeathaL> ????
[Wed Jun 11 11:33:01 2003] ffff00<Commander Jameson> "Distephano" /ignore "LeathaL" :-)
[Wed Jun 11 11:33:05 2003] ffff00<MotraX> what???
[Wed Jun 11 11:33:08 2003] ff0000<BearBurP> MORBACK MORBACK MORBACK
[Wed Jun 11 11:33:17 2003] ff0000<Blitz> "Arolte" have you noticed i play like 10 minutes a day latelly?
[Wed Jun 11 11:33:19 2003] ff0000<Bernhard> hostile?
[Wed Jun 11 11:33:19 2003] 8080ff<Dark Vador> Grim come" i will fuck you
[Wed Jun 11 11:33:21 2003] ffff00<Distephano> jo keine schlechte idee
[Wed Jun 11 11:33:24 2003] 00ffffPress the Activate key to enter wormhole to sector 13.
[Wed Jun 11 11:33:26 2003] ff0000LeathaL /ignore all golds =)
[Wed Jun 11 11:33:29 2003] ff0000<Blitz> "Arolte" or you're head is stuck in your ass?:/
[Wed Jun 11 11:33:29 2003] ffff00<Arolte> you sux :D
[Wed Jun 11 11:33:34 2003] ffff00<Lin> puh
[Wed Jun 11 11:33:35 2003] you are entering sector 13
[Wed Jun 11 11:33:39 2003] 00ffffPress the Activate key to enter wormhole to sector 5.
[Wed Jun 11 11:33:40 2003] ffff00<Arolte> blitzy sux blitzy sux blitzy sux :D
[Wed Jun 11 11:33:40 2003] ffff00<Commander Jameson> Lin: ?
[Wed Jun 11 11:33:46 2003] ff0000<Bernhard> "MotraX" hostile?
[Wed Jun 11 11:33:53 2003] ff0000<Blitz> i copyrighted "suck"!
[Wed Jun 11 11:33:55 2003] ff0000<Grim Battol> I come. You die.
[Wed Jun 11 11:33:59 2003] ffff00<Arolte> i said sux : b
[Wed Jun 11 11:34:05 2003] ffff00<Arolte> chaaaaase me!!! lololol
[Wed Jun 11 11:34:08 2003] ffff00<Arolte> here boy
[Wed Jun 11 11:34:13 2003] ffff00<Arolte> *whistles*
[Wed Jun 11 11:34:13 2003] ff0000<Blitz> so? i copyrighted it 10 seconds ago
[Wed Jun 11 11:34:22 2003] ff0000<Grim Battol> Copyrighted what?
[Wed Jun 11 11:34:26 2003] 00ffffPress the Activate key to enter wormhole to sector 11.
[Wed Jun 11 11:34:27 2003] ff0000<BearBurP> *** * *** ***** u* ****** *u ** * * *u*******u u* ****
[Wed Jun 11 11:34:28 2003] ff0000<DUCK> bye all
[Wed Jun 11 11:34:31 2003] ff0000<Blitz> the word "suck" :D
[Wed Jun 11 11:34:35 2003] ff0000<Grim Battol> Hehe.
[Wed Jun 11 11:34:37 2003] 8080ff<D4rK_4gE[ul-T]> can u stop it
[Wed Jun 11 11:34:41 2003] you are entering sector 11
[Wed Jun 11 11:34:45 2003] ff0000<BearBurP> degage gros CON
[Wed Jun 11 11:34:45 2003] ff0000<Grim Battol> Stop what?
[Wed Jun 11 11:34:45 2003] ff0000<Blitz> khrally rans khrallly runs
[Wed Jun 11 11:34:47 2003] 8080ff<D4rK_4gE[ul-T]> kill noob is so interesting for u
[Wed Jun 11 11:34:48 2003] ff0000<Blitz> bah typo :/
[Wed Jun 11 11:34:49 2003] ffff00<Arolte> lol
[Wed Jun 11 11:34:53 2003] ff0000<BearBurP> nachave toi
[Wed Jun 11 11:34:55 2003] 8080ff<D4rK_4gE[ul-T]> ??
[Wed Jun 11 11:34:57 2003] ff0000<Grim Battol> You are very irritating.
[Wed Jun 11 11:35:00 2003] ff0000<BearBurP> je te piss a l oeil
[Wed Jun 11 11:35:01 2003] ff0000<Grim Battol> I kill irritating noobs.
[Wed Jun 11 11:35:06 2003] ff0000<Grim Battol> I defend cool noobs.
[Wed Jun 11 11:35:07 2003] 40ffff(Gold) [10] <wizdom[TPi]> hey lin whats up ??+
[Wed Jun 11 11:35:08 2003] ff0000<BearBurP> gold is a noob
[Wed Jun 11 11:35:13 2003] ff0000<BearBurP> pfff
[Wed Jun 11 11:35:16 2003] ff0000<Blitz> gold suck :D
[Wed Jun 11 11:35:18 2003] 40ffff(Gold) [15] <Lin> nothing special :)
[Wed Jun 11 11:35:19 2003] ffff00<MotraX> good kml
[Wed Jun 11 11:35:22 2003] 40ffff(Gold) [11] <super_kev> Where's the part?
[Wed Jun 11 11:35:23 2003] ff0000<BearBurP> lool
[Wed Jun 11 11:35:26 2003] 40ffff(Gold) [11] <super_kev> *party?
[Wed Jun 11 11:35:27 2003] 8080ff<Dark Vador> i fuck you i fuck you Grim Battol
[Wed Jun 11 11:35:28 2003] 00ffffPress the Activate key to enter wormhole to sector 6.
[Wed Jun 11 11:35:28 2003] ff0000<Grim Battol> Become a cool noob, and I'll help you out.
[Wed Jun 11 11:35:32 2003] ff0000<BearBurP> gold is a big noob
[Wed Jun 11 11:35:34 2003] ffff00<Arolte> "Grim Battol" has a fan :)
[Wed Jun 11 11:35:34 2003] ffffffYou need full energy to warp.
[Wed Jun 11 11:35:35 2003] ffffffYou need full energy to warp.

Example #2: Religious intolerance and racist remarks.

[Wed Jun 11 11:36:35 2003] ff0000<Blitz> screw you khrally :(
[Wed Jun 11 11:36:38 2003] 00ffffPress the Activate key to dock.
[Wed Jun 11 11:36:39 2003] ffff00<Arolte> lol :(
[Wed Jun 11 11:36:40 2003] ff0000<Grim Battol> Yo Busmaster.
[Wed Jun 11 11:36:54 2003] ffff00<BusMasteR GT[TPi]> eeeh yo grim =)
[Wed Jun 11 11:37:11 2003] ff0000<Grim Battol> Bus party in s7!
[Wed Jun 11 11:37:13 2003] 00ffffPress the Activate key to dock.
[Wed Jun 11 11:37:19 2003] 40ffff(Gold) [6] <Arolte> "Blitz" in s6
[Wed Jun 11 11:37:29 2003] Pear01 destroyed [NPC] Hiere
[Wed Jun 11 11:37:32 2003] 40ffff(Gold) [6] <Commander Jameson> and I can't see a damn thing
[Wed Jun 11 11:37:33 2003] 40ffff(Gold) [6] <hachikyu> engaged
[Wed Jun 11 11:37:39 2003] Blitz destroyed hachikyu
[Wed Jun 11 11:37:40 2003] 40ffff(Gold) [10] <super_kev> COMING
[Wed Jun 11 11:37:42 2003] ffff00<MotraX> no shooting'
[Wed Jun 11 11:37:43 2003] ffff00<BusMasteR GT[TPi]> ow - damn - i suck as usual... tired...
[Wed Jun 11 11:37:44 2003] ff0000<Blitz> yey
[Wed Jun 11 11:37:49 2003] ff0000<Grim Battol> MotraX! Fire!
[Wed Jun 11 11:37:52 2003] ffff00<hachikyu> nice one "Blaster"
[Wed Jun 11 11:37:53 2003] ffff00<Arolte> he's running :(
[Wed Jun 11 11:37:54 2003] 00ffffPress the Activate key to enter wormhole to sector 11.
[Wed Jun 11 11:37:56 2003] ffff00<hachikyu> er blitz
[Wed Jun 11 11:37:57 2003] ffffffYou need full energy to warp.
[Wed Jun 11 11:37:57 2003] ffffffYou need full energy to warp.
[Wed Jun 11 11:38:03 2003] ff0000<Blitz> "Arolte" he's rearming :(
[Wed Jun 11 11:38:04 2003] you are entering sector 11
[Wed Jun 11 11:38:07 2003] 00ffffPress the Activate key to enter wormhole to sector 6.
[Wed Jun 11 11:38:08 2003] ffff00<Arolte> :(
[Wed Jun 11 11:38:22 2003] ff0000<Blitz> baaaaad khrally
[Wed Jun 11 11:38:29 2003] ffff00<MotraX> dwg
[Wed Jun 11 11:38:30 2003] ff0000<Blitz> may i call you arab?:D
[Wed Jun 11 11:38:34 2003] ffff00<MotraX> no shooting
[Wed Jun 11 11:38:41 2003] ffff00<Arolte> run :(
[Wed Jun 11 11:38:49 2003] ff0000<Blitz> i need ammo dummy
[Wed Jun 11 11:38:56 2003] ffff00<hachikyu> wasted alot on me :D
[Wed Jun 11 11:38:57 2003] 00ffffPress the Activate key to enter wormhole to sector 13.
[Wed Jun 11 11:38:59 2003] ff0000<Blitz> missed :D
[Wed Jun 11 11:39:03 2003] ffff00<hachikyu> :D
[Wed Jun 11 11:39:05 2003] ffff00<Arolte> you too (:
[Wed Jun 11 11:39:12 2003] ff0000<Blitz> i didnt shoot :D
[Wed Jun 11 11:39:15 2003] ffff00<MotraX> no shooting
[Wed Jun 11 11:39:18 2003] ffff00<Arolte> that's how much ju00 sux
[Wed Jun 11 11:39:40 2003] 00ffffPress the Activate key to enter wormhole to sector 13.
[Wed Jun 11 11:39:41 2003] ffffffYou need full energy to warp.
[Wed Jun 11 11:39:41 2003] ffffffYou need full energy to warp.
[Wed Jun 11 11:39:41 2003] ffffffYou need full energy to warp.
[Wed Jun 11 11:39:47 2003] you are entering sector 13
[Wed Jun 11 11:39:53 2003] ff0000<Blitz> follow me my silly goldie
[Wed Jun 11 11:39:56 2003] 00ffffPress the Activate key to enter wormhole to sector 11.
[Wed Jun 11 11:39:57 2003] ffff00<BusMasteR GT[TPi]> gonna go now... c ya guys/girls =)
[Wed Jun 11 11:40:02 2003] ff0000<Grim Battol> Bye!
[Wed Jun 11 11:40:05 2003] ffff00<Commander Jameson> By
[Wed Jun 11 11:40:11 2003] ff0000<Watson> Bye
[Wed Jun 11 11:40:11 2003] ffff00<wizdom[TPi]> bye frinde
[Wed Jun 11 11:40:15 2003] ffff00BusMasteR GT[TPi] logs off
[Wed Jun 11 11:40:17 2003] ffff00<Lin> bye master
[Wed Jun 11 11:40:18 2003] ff0000<Grim Battol> Yay!
[Wed Jun 11 11:40:22 2003] ff0000<Blitz> missed :D
[Wed Jun 11 11:40:25 2003] 00ffffPress the Activate key to dock.
[Wed Jun 11 11:40:28 2003] ffff00<Arolte> dock :D
[Wed Jun 11 11:40:32 2003] m_waiting=4
[Wed Jun 11 11:40:32 2003] Waiting for purchase of ammo.
[Wed Jun 11 11:40:33 2003] m_waiting=4
[Wed Jun 11 11:40:33 2003] Waiting for purchase of ammo.
[Wed Jun 11 11:40:35 2003] 00ffffPress the Activate key to dock.
[Wed Jun 11 11:40:37 2003] 00ffffPress the Activate key to dock.
[Wed Jun 11 11:40:46 2003] ff0000<Blitz> follow my prom :D
[Wed Jun 11 11:40:49 2003] ffff00<Arolte> k :
[Wed Jun 11 11:41:00 2003] 00ffffPress the Activate key to enter wormhole to sector 12.
[Wed Jun 11 11:41:01 2003] ffffffYou need full energy to warp.
[Wed Jun 11 11:41:01 2003] ffffffYou need full energy to warp.
[Wed Jun 11 11:41:01 2003] ffffffYou need full energy to warp.
[Wed Jun 11 11:41:01 2003] ffffffYou need full energy to warp.
[Wed Jun 11 11:41:02 2003] ffffffYou need full energy to warp.
[Wed Jun 11 11:41:02 2003] ffffffYou need full energy to warp.
[Wed Jun 11 11:41:02 2003] ffffffYou need full energy to warp.
[Wed Jun 11 11:41:02 2003] ffffffYou need full energy to warp.
[Wed Jun 11 11:41:02 2003] ffffffYou need full energy to warp.
[Wed Jun 11 11:41:02 2003] ffffffYou need full energy to warp.
[Wed Jun 11 11:41:02 2003] ffffffYou need full energy to warp.
[Wed Jun 11 11:41:02 2003] ffffffYou need full energy to warp.
[Wed Jun 11 11:41:02 2003] ffffffYou need full energy to warp.
[Wed Jun 11 11:41:02 2003] ffffffYou need full energy to warp.
[Wed Jun 11 11:41:02 2003] ffffffYou need full energy to warp.
[Wed Jun 11 11:41:08 2003] you are entering sector 12
[Wed Jun 11 11:41:11 2003] ff0000<Blitz> i have an eff engine and you cant catch me. you're S-L-W!
[Wed Jun 11 11:41:11 2003] 40ffff(Gold) [15] <Distephano> grim in 15
[Wed Jun 11 11:41:46 2003] ff0000<Grim Battol> Lalalalaaaa.... lalalalaaa!
[Wed Jun 11 11:41:53 2003] ffff00<MotraX> yo all
[Wed Jun 11 11:41:53 2003] ff0000<Grim Battol> I'm loggin' off.
[Wed Jun 11 11:41:55 2003] ff0000<Grim Battol> Bye all.
[Wed Jun 11 11:41:58 2003] ffff00<hachikyu> cya
[Wed Jun 11 11:41:59 2003] ffff00<Distephano> bye
[Wed Jun 11 11:41:59 2003] ffff00<Commander Jameson> Bye "Grim Battol"
[Wed Jun 11 11:42:00 2003] 8080ff<<TRADE>-no fight> bye
[Wed Jun 11 11:42:01 2003] ff0000<Blitz> chase me!
[Wed Jun 11 11:42:04 2003] ff0000<Watson> Bye
[Wed Jun 11 11:42:07 2003] ff0000<Grim Battol> Call me Grim! Please!
[Wed Jun 11 11:42:09 2003] 00ffffPress the Activate key to enter wormhole to sector 2.
[Wed Jun 11 11:42:10 2003] ffff00<Lin> bye
[Wed Jun 11 11:42:12 2003] ffffffYou need full energy to warp.
[Wed Jun 11 11:42:12 2003] ffffffYou need full energy to warp.
[Wed Jun 11 11:42:12 2003] ffffffYou need full energy to warp.
[Wed Jun 11 11:42:12 2003] ffffffYou need full energy to warp.
[Wed Jun 11 11:42:12 2003] ffffffYou need full energy to warp.
[Wed Jun 11 11:42:12 2003] ffffffYou need full energy to warp.
[Wed Jun 11 11:42:12 2003] ffffffYou need full energy to warp.
[Wed Jun 11 11:42:13 2003] ffffffYou need full energy to warp.
[Wed Jun 11 11:42:13 2003] ffffffYou need full energy to warp.
[Wed Jun 11 11:42:13 2003] ffffffYou need full energy to warp.
[Wed Jun 11 11:42:13 2003] ffffffYou need full energy to warp.
[Wed Jun 11 11:42:13 2003] ffffffYou need full energy to warp.
[Wed Jun 11 11:42:13 2003] ffffffYou need full energy to warp.
[Wed Jun 11 11:42:13 2003] ffffffYou need full energy to warp.
[Wed Jun 11 11:42:13 2003] ffffffYou need full energy to warp.
[Wed Jun 11 11:42:17 2003] ffff00<Arolte> you don't have an eff engine, first of all
[Wed Jun 11 11:42:19 2003] you are entering sector 2
[Wed Jun 11 11:42:22 2003] ffff00<Arolte> since you're pausing before you jump
[Wed Jun 11 11:42:25 2003] ffff00<Arolte> lol
[Wed Jun 11 11:42:28 2003] ffff00<Commander Jameson> Grim: OK
[Wed Jun 11 11:42:28 2003] ff0000<LeathaL> boom
[Wed Jun 11 11:42:31 2003] ff0000<Blitz> hehe
[Wed Jun 11 11:42:38 2003] ff0000<Blitz> a med :D
[Wed Jun 11 11:42:43 2003] ffff00<wizdom[TPi]> hmmm got that comming ....
[Wed Jun 11 11:42:52 2003] ff0000<Blitz> lol khrally
[Wed Jun 11 11:42:55 2003] ffff00<Arolte> damn he's scared of me :(
[Wed Jun 11 11:42:56 2003] 00ffffPress the Activate key to enter wormhole to sector 12.
[Wed Jun 11 11:42:59 2003] ff0000<LeathaL> "wizdom[TPi]" i told ya ill kill u =P
[Wed Jun 11 11:43:00 2003] ff0000<Blitz> S-T-P-D!
[Wed Jun 11 11:43:02 2003] you are entering sector 12
[Wed Jun 11 11:43:08 2003] ffff00<Arolte> the funny thing out of all of this... i still have 0 rockets. lol
[Wed Jun 11 11:43:16 2003] ffff00<wizdom[TPi]> and now i have to kill you ...
[Wed Jun 11 11:43:19 2003] ff0000<Blitz> i have 57% and no rockets...
[Wed Jun 11 11:43:20 2003] ffff00<Commander Jameson> "Arolte" *LOL*
[Wed Jun 11 11:43:24 2003] ffff00<Arolte> run from the empty ships, blitzy :(
[Wed Jun 11 11:43:37 2003] ff0000<680000> is the efficient engine any good?
[Wed Jun 11 11:43:40 2003] ffff00<Arolte> no
[Wed Jun 11 11:43:42 2003] ff0000<LeathaL> im still in 11 come im waiting for u "wizdom[TPi]
[Wed Jun 11 11:43:43 2003] ffff00<Commander Jameson> No
[Wed Jun 11 11:43:46 2003] ff0000<Blitz> date in 5 minutes
[Wed Jun 11 11:43:53 2003] ff0000<Blitz> bring your ass to s12 station sucky :D
[Wed Jun 11 11:43:54 2003] 40ffff(Gold) [10] <hachikyu> have fun "Blitz"
[Wed Jun 11 11:43:56 2003] ffff00<Arolte> that how long it takes to inflate a doll?
[Wed Jun 11 11:43:58 2003] ffff00<hachikyu> have fun "Blitz"
[Wed Jun 11 11:44:13 2003] ff0000<Blitz> screw you arab :(
[Wed Jun 11 11:44:20 2003] 00ffffPress the Activate key to enter wormhole to sector 13.
[Wed Jun 11 11:44:24 2003] 8080ff<D4rK_4gE[ul-T]> cya all
[Wed Jun 11 11:44:25 2003] you are entering sector 13
[Wed Jun 11 11:44:29 2003] ffff00<Arolte> later "D4rK_4gE[ul-T]"
[Wed Jun 11 11:44:29 2003] ff0000<LeathaL> screw all the arabs!
[Wed Jun 11 11:44:34 2003] ff0000<LeathaL> =O
[Wed Jun 11 11:44:36 2003] 00ffffPress the Activate key to enter wormhole to sector 12.
[Wed Jun 11 11:44:42 2003] ffff00<Arolte> now where'd he get the idea that i was an arab? : /
[Wed Jun 11 11:44:43 2003] ff0000<680000> what's your problem with arabs?
[Wed Jun 11 11:44:43 2003] ff0000<Blitz> not the male ones! ewwwww!
[Wed Jun 11 11:44:50 2003] ffff00<Commander Jameson> "Arolte" dunno?
[Wed Jun 11 11:44:54 2003] ff0000<Blitz> "Arolte" you're an ass :D
[Wed Jun 11 11:44:56 2003] 8080ff<D4rK_4gE[ul-T]> and sry for my badmaning but i am a noob in this game and i want to look good pl
[Wed Jun 11 11:45:03 2003] ffff00<Arolte> so because i'm an ass... i'm automatically an arab?
[Wed Jun 11 11:45:03 2003] 8080ff<D4rK_4gE[ul-T]> now i look and i die ^^
[Wed Jun 11 11:45:07 2003] ff0000<Blitz> yep
[Wed Jun 11 11:45:10 2003] ffff00<Arolte> sounds like a type of thing guides should handle
[Wed Jun 11 11:45:13 2003] ffff00<Arolte> racism : /
[Wed Jun 11 11:45:15 2003] ffff00<Commander Jameson> "Arolte" Yup
[Wed Jun 11 11:45:18 2003] ffff00Arolte saves his log
[Wed Jun 11 11:45:19 2003] ff0000<Blitz> "Arolte" so?:D
[Wed Jun 11 11:45:21 2003] ff0000<LeathaL> yes "Arolte"
[Wed Jun 11 11:45:22 2003] ffff00<wizdom[TPi]> on may way ... be alone no abus ... just the 2 of os "LeathaL
[Wed Jun 11 11:45:29 2003] 00ffffPress the Activate key to dock.
[Wed Jun 11 11:45:44 2003] ff0000<Blitz> "Arolte" if you call me a jew i'll kick your butt :D
[Wed Jun 11 11:45:48 2003] ffff00<Arolte> blitz enters the land of bannination :D
[Wed Jun 11 11:46:00 2003] ff0000<680000> so what is wrong with jews now?
[Wed Jun 11 11:46:02 2003] 00ffffPress the Activate key to dock.
[Wed Jun 11 11:46:05 2003] ff0000<Blitz> can i be banned for calling you an arab?
[Wed Jun 11 11:46:08 2003] ff0000<680000> have I walked into a hate fest?
[Wed Jun 11 11:46:11 2003] ff0000<LeathaL> no prom "wizdom[TPi] im alon here in 11
[Wed Jun 11 11:46:26 2003] ff0000<Blitz> "680000" dont mind me. just makin fun of arolte
[Wed Jun 11 11:46:26 2003] 00ffffPress the Activate key to enter wormhole to sector 11.

Since guides aren't on 24/7, I think the only proof positive way to stop this sort of behavior is to simply save error.log files of the offending individual. When you've got an archive of 'em with repeated instances, e-mail a dev with the logs attached. It's a hell of a lot more reliable and easier than dealing with shady guides that operate behind curtains.
Jun 11, 2003 Renegade ++RIP++ link
First of all,

arolte, In my opinion you are exagerating, he wasn't trying to work you up or anything, he was just trying to be funny.

Besides the arab was a indication to your roots, and like everybody knows you are proud off it. He could have said it entirely different if he really wanted to tick you off.

In my opinion you are just trying to get some players banned because you have a feud with them. And don't try to deny that, you have and always had a feud with xxx (blitz). When I was reading it, I thought it were just 2 people fooling a little bit around, no offense intended, even at your side arolte. That was also the reason ehy he said the thing about the jews.

cheers
Jun 11, 2003 Arolte link
Example #1 is not an exaggeration. Take a closer look. Although it's not shown in the chat, one of the players at the time also had the "F" word in his name.

I'm not an Arab. He totally made that up. So there is absolutely no reference to my, or anyone else's, "roots."

The reason why there is a "feud" to begin with is because of his poor behavior. If people would put the slightest bit of effort in behaving more maturely, there wouldn't be a "feud" to begin with. Admittedly I've made mistakes of my own, but I truly believe there are quite a number of trolls in this game with no intent to play the game other than to piss others off for the thrill of it. I mean these are the type of guys that you've never even met that just jump in and kill you for no reason. Even if you're in a bus, they don't care! And they do it to just about anyone.

When you start to meet more and more of these individuals over time, you really begin to lose faith in the community. And sometimes you may even get angry enough to stoop to their level. I've seen otherwise friendly regulars snap into a cursing frenzy when some of these individuals have decided to jump in and ruin thier gameplay, either through exploiting or repeated attacks. You may not care much about 'em if you meet 'em once or twice, I know I wouldn't normally, but when you see 'em log on one by one almost every single day pulling the same shit over and over, you really question where the community is headed. It's something that's been happening for quite some time, whether you choose to acknowledge it or not.
Jun 11, 2003 Renegade ++RIP++ link
Nope you are right about 1, but in my opinion blitz wasn't in it, it was the other one.

The explanation I gave concerned 2 , and yes I know you aren't an arab, and blitz knows that to, but he was joking for good sake, at least that is the way I understood it. If he meant it he would have really said it in another way, just believe me.

Oh and besides for some persons the difference between an arab and a Turkish persons isn't noticeable, but for me and you it is in fact noticeable. Besides blitz never acted like that against me, he has only tryijng to piss you off, so the best way to counter that is putting him on ignore. And the reason why he does it , is because you killed him a lot in the beginning of his game (you know the pirating and all). And for some people it is very difficult to let that loose, it would be the same as seeing icarus stopping with pirating, a lot of people got hurt during his time as a pirate and a lot of people will try to take revenge for the pirating. And it will even happen after they turned to the good side (or started to see the light ;)). It isn't nice at all, but it is a result from your actions and you wil have to carry that burden and try to resolve it in a nice way, and not by trying to ban the guy.

If I return, I will try to talk with blitz, and see if I'm able to alter his stance, but untill that day , just ignore him ;)

cheers
Jun 11, 2003 Forum Moderator link
(Arolte:)"Since guides aren't on 24/7, I think the only proof positive way to stop this sort of behavior is to simply save error.log files of the offending individual. When you've got an archive of 'em with repeated instances, e-mail a dev with the logs attached. It's a hell of a lot more reliable and easier than dealing with shady guides that operate behind curtains."

"<Arolte> good to know the guides are doing their job"

At least until the dev's indicate otherwise, that might be a good idea. Posting the entire contents of logs is a bit long for the forums.

Non-specific criticism of the Guides in game and out actually compounds the problem by creating suspicion and decreasing respect / compliance. If you have *specific* complaints about Guides please take it up with the devs. Some of your complaints have more to do with the way Guide commands are implimented and instructions given to the Guides by the devs.

Jun 11, 2003 Suicidal Lemming link
Ex 1: Wow, take what i say a couple times fold (when i got talked to, especially the latest incident with me and a guide (the mute one))
Ex 2: eh wasn't that bad but still...

Renegade: Leathal has a sense of humour? =P
Jun 11, 2003 Renegade ++RIP++ link
Yeah , I noticed

Maybe he isn't that bad after all , and I shouldn't try to kill him over and over for killing me over and over again.

thinks, thinks some more, neahhhhhhhhh :lol:

Oh well, we'll see, if he pirates, he'll get shot, otherwise it's normal business

cheers

Jun 11, 2003 Pyro link
[whee stuff] Thanks, Moderator. I'll email my logs to the devs from now on... They're about 50 kB each...
Jun 11, 2003 Forum Moderator link
Referring to players in those terms isn't helping the situation. Please reconsider your post.
Jun 11, 2003 Suicidal Lemming link
We need a flames area, leathal is just too prone to having fun poked at him.

I'd send logs but i haven't been playing lately, guess why... (psst, it involves the words "This community sucks right now")
Jun 11, 2003 cembandit link
This post is still going?
Jun 12, 2003 xochiluvr link
This post hasn't been locked and the remaining off topicness hasn't been sent to someone else's board yet?
Jun 12, 2003 Forum Moderator link
We've kept it open in an attempt to "clear the air", but perhaps its time has come.