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Ion botting is fun :)

Oct 08, 2004 mattb link
Having gotten to a level where I can finally start getting some reasonably cool equipment, and after getting a bit tired of the collector bots (and having amassed a small newbie's fortune through trading), I decided to throw caution to the wind and go botting in an ion storm with assault and gaurdian bots. :) Yeah I got waxed, but I did get 1500 xp points off of only three bots. :D The local station was making a killing off me though, I lost about 30k every time I went to the ion sector and got rubbed out.......which happened a lot. :P

I gotta say, this seems like a pretty cool way to learn some new combat stuff, as well as figure out what ship and what weapons setup you do best with for given conditions and opponents. The action was a lot more intense than what I'm used to, especially with the added element of being in the storm. I played Vendetta a bit about a year or so ago, and have been playing it again since just after the release announcement (weekend before Sept. 25th I guess), and I think this is the first time I've really had fun doing combat in this game. I definitely noticed a change in my aiming and combat technique, pretty quickly. It also gave my confidence in combat a pretty good boost, I may go try my hand at some "proper" botting sectors, for gaurdian bots..........maybe a little easier without 2 or 3 Arklins teaming on me constantly? :)

-Matt Bailey
Oct 09, 2004 Renegade ++RIP++ link
actually a group of arklans can be avoided without a prob, however if you encounter a group of assaults at the same time, then I propose you take them out first, otherwise they will lay a world of hurt on top of you :D
Oct 09, 2004 Agonizer link
I dont know if this is a kind of 'exploit', but i found an easy way for leveling up light (or heavy) Weapons.

I just entered Odia N-14 and 'collected' nearly all the bots. I shot at them so they follow me. I like the groups of guardians with wingman assaults :-)

Then i 'land' on an asteroid (well, one time it was a crash landing and it costs me a new vultre ;-). However, if you land on an asteroid (in a 'concav' place) then bots will not see you. They start do drift slowly away. Now i shoot one o two assaults down. They respawn somewhere (they wont follow me until i shot them again).

I really wish vendetta could record a demo like quake 2 ;-)

Now i start just hunting the two assaults. I do not care the bots who are behind me as i'm fast enough. In case of emergency i just use the asteroids for cover.

Then i line up behind the single assault ships and give them a full charge of tachyon Mark II until they explode. In most cases i have also the time to collect the ore they drop. It gives +800 XP for light weapons, and all i have to do is turboing to the sector, line up behind the poor assault, give them a load of Tachyon cum, turbo to the next assault, line up, ...

sometimes however i get bored so i have fun with the bots that i've collected earlier.

As i said before in another posting here, the bots NEED to use a distributed attack sheme, they shouldn't all strictly follow you. Perhaps let some stop to follow you, they should turbo to another point in the asteroid belt and wait there until the player comes near again.

But the current behaviour isn't really good.

Sorry for my bad english ;)
Oct 09, 2004 mattb link
Renegade: Yeah, I'd run across the storm inadvertently earlier, and avoided the bots ok, my following encounters with them were deliberate. :)

Agnoizer: Interesting tactic. Doesn't surprise me much, I do agree the bots' current behavior is pretty dumb. But the release version will probably be a lot different. :) I don't think I want to see a large percentage of the bots in a sector teaming up on you though, that would just not be cool. The Arklans actually did appear to be working together, in pairs. One would move in close and shoot, then start backing away........while it was backing away and I was trying to get a shot in, the other would be moving in closer. When I turned to that one, it eventually started moving away and the other moved in. Seems if you just keep hammering them both when they move in, it keeps them more or less in front of you and helps you stay alive. Sometimes, however, they will get you between them. Again, relentelessly pounding both of them back and forth as they switch positions seems to keep them in front pretty much. If they get you between them, you're in trouble.

And when I would kill one bot, and thought I had it made, another nearby bot would pretty quickly come and replace the one I shot.

Btw, I may be mixing tactics and bots a little bit here, as I think I fought some assault bots of some sort for a while, but the Arklans are the ones that I remember best. :)

-Matt Bailey