this was the conversation between the CGCC commander, and CNTR's Lieutenent. CNTR was looking for additional support to become a larger trading guild to match TGFT's member numbers.

Here's how it went down: (-> = DrDoak007 / * = Dihelical)

[06/23/06 00:03:16] ->Dihelical Synthesis: i have to talk with you..
[06/23/06 00:03:25] *Dihelical Synthesis* about?

[06/23/06 00:03:43] ->Dihelical Synthesis: how is the guild doing these days?

[06/23/06 00:04:25] *Dihelical Synthesis* Slowly, largely due to the fact that everyone's busy with life outside of VO. We do have most of our business in order though.

[06/23/06 00:05:06] [100] <Dihelical Synthesis> Okay, that is an image I did NOT need in my head right now..
[06/23/06 00:05:20] ->Dihelical Synthesis: same with ours. i was thinking of offering a buyout of your guild, (right to the point) we can offer your liet.s commitee positions

[06/23/06 00:05:31] ->Dihelical Synthesis: and yourself a lieut. position

[06/23/06 00:05:48] *Dihelical Synthesis* not a chance in hell. you couldn't afford our assets.

[06/23/06 00:06:32] ->Dihelical Synthesis: it's not your assets i am concerned about. we have like minded guilds, tgft has the majority of the market
[06/23/06 00:06:41] *Dihelical Synthesis* CGCC has more than enough bargaining power right now to keep our edge even without significant game time.

[06/23/06 00:07:02] ->Dihelical Synthesis: the idea is to give them a run for their money
[06/23/06 00:07:16] *Dihelical Synthesis* Furthermore, from what I hear (and I hear quite a lot... information is my business after all) your guild is LESS active than ours.
[06/23/06 00:07:21] [100] <DrDoak007> with opposition worthy of their guild numbers

[06/23/06 00:07:54] ->Dihelical Synthesis: less active how?
[06/23/06 00:07:59] *Dihelical Synthesis* My dear doctor, CGCC is already poised to compete with TGFT, without your help. If anything, it is we who should be buying you.
[06/23/06 00:08:09] *Dihelical Synthesis* by sheer active member count.
[06/23/06 00:08:31] ->Dihelical Synthesis: look man, i am not here to make you feel small, dont get your panties in a bunch.

[06/23/06 00:09:08] *Dihelical Synthesis* Don't isult my intelligence.
[06/23/06 00:09:11] ->Dihelical Synthesis: i am trying to organize a grouping of the two guilds, if it's not your cup of tea, i'll meld with a better guild
[06/23/06 00:09:21] *Dihelical Synthesis* Good luck
[06/23/06 00:09:27] ->Dihelical Synthesis: get more members...
[06/23/06 00:09:44] ->Dihelical Synthesis: and stay off the offensive there buddy.
[06/23/06 00:10:04] *Dihelical Synthesis* allow me to point out that we already have sufficient members. Any new members of CGCC will be to -my- choosing.

[06/23/06 00:10:38] ->Dihelical Synthesis: when PA buys you out, i'll feel sorry for you then
[06/23/06 00:10:39] *Dihelical Synthesis* CGCC is, shall we say, somewhat exclusive. I aim to keep it that way.
[06/23/06 00:10:46] ->Dihelical Synthesis: HAHAHA
[06/23/06 00:10:51] *Dihelical Synthesis* I own PA.

[06/23/06 00:11:08] ->Dihelical Synthesis: exclusive?

[06/23/06 00:11:32] ->Dihelical Synthesis: you asked me to help you start it up. you went begging to #100 for members!
[06/23/06 00:11:45] ->Dihelical Synthesis: or have you forgotten that?

[06/23/06 00:12:40] *Dihelical Synthesis* yes, as in I wouldn't take you just because you came begging to my doorstep at this point. I doubt you created your guild without some 'begging'.
[06/23/06 00:14:06] ->Dihelical Synthesis: so unlike your guild, we have all active *real* players

[06/23/06 00:14:14] *Dihelical Synthesis* CGCC will continue to regard CNTR as a competitor at this point. Don't bother asking again.

[06/23/06 00:14:45] ->Dihelical Synthesis: dont worry your pretty little heart about it buddy. get a life, IT'S A GAME!

[06/23/06 00:14:48] *Dihelical Synthesis* All of our active members are real, DrDoak007 . For someone who claims to market information, you seem to be lacking in it

[06/23/06 00:15:16] ->Dihelical Synthesis: where in our guild info does it say "market info"
[06/23/06 00:15:22] *Dihelical Synthesis* I have a life, thank you. That is, after all, why CGCC isn't yet in full swing as your precious CNTR is - we have lives.

[06/23/06 00:15:53] ->Dihelical Synthesis: you are really too fucking funny.

[06/23/06 00:16:28] *Dihelical Synthesis* do you wish to be competitors, or enemies? do not test my humor.

[06/23/06 00:17:01] ->Dihelical Synthesis: hahaha, wtf is your deal dude? are you really that serious? lmao you suck!

[06/23/06 00:17:27] *Dihelical Synthesis* war you say? why certianly... we shall oblige.
[06/23/06 00:17:35] [100] <DrDoak007> hahahaha
[06/23/06 00:18:08] [100] <DrDoak007> "Dihelical Synthesis" is a true cartographer!!! he's waging war against me
[06/23/06 00:18:19] [100] <tumblemonster> He's actually a SCAR
[06/23/06 00:18:51] ->Dihelical Synthesis: you are really fucked up man, get a shrink

[06/23/06 00:20:09] [100] DrDoak007 is offering a 2million credit bounty on the death of "Dihelical Synthesis"
[06/23/06 00:20:31] [100] <tumblemonster> oooo, where is he?

[06/23/06 00:20:56] [100] <tumblemonster> I'm always up for killing cunjo

[06/23/06 00:21:08] ->Dihelical Synthesis: see, all it costs me is 2 mil, and i have your ass on a platter.
[06/23/06 00:21:33] ->Dihelical Synthesis: i think i can afford to dso that, another 20 times.
[06/23/06 00:22:04] ->Dihelical Synthesis: it's only money... but it pisses you off! I LOVE MY JOB!!!!
[06/23/06 00:22:08] [1] <IRC> <Cunjo> Tumble, when was the last time you succeeded at that? =P

[06/23/06 00:22:19] [1] <IRC> <Cunjo> your spamming tactics have become far less effective against me as of late
[06/23/06 00:22:39] [100] <tumblemonster> thats because I haven't bothered as of late

[06/23/06 00:25:02] [100] <tumblemonster> So doak, where is he?r

[06/23/06 00:25:15] [100] <tumblemonster> Cuz Im up for 2 mil anytime
[06/23/06 00:25:46] ->Dihelical Synthesis: you know, really, when i propostioned you with this business offer, all you really had to say was not interested.
[06/23/06 00:25:47] [100] <Dihelical Synthesis> For all those interested, CGCC is not, nor shall it ever be for sale, and as DrDoak007 has discovered, we dont take kindly to repeated offers.
[06/23/06 00:26:05] ->Dihelical Synthesis: instead you got all hot and bothered, and then became a real dink.

[06/23/06 00:26:45] [100] <DrDoak007> yeah, no one buy his crappy guild... okay?
[06/23/06 00:26:47] [100] <Dihelical Synthesis> Nor do we take kindly to insults. He has been ignored.

[06/23/06 00:27:21] [100] <tumblemonster> For all those interested, Dihecunjalat0r is a punk, and his guild is KOS, so if you see one, let me know

[06/23/06 00:28:00] [100] <Dihelical Synthesis> now now mofomonsterboy, what have we ever done to you?
[06/23/06 00:28:19] [100] <DrDoak007> cause if you try to merge with him, on a business level, he gets high and mighty... then cries like a little girl

[06/23/06 00:28:48] [100] <Setan Slane> lol
[06/23/06 00:28:55] [100] <DrDoak007> but because he did this, he cant see what i am writing right now
[06/23/06 00:29:02] [100] <Setan Slane> Don't believe it though
[06/23/06 00:30:11] [100] <DrDoak007> actually, I will pay $500,000 credits to the one who rats out his location for tumble...

[06/23/06 00:30:49] [100] <Dihelical Synthesis> Now it is my turn to laugh at you, DrDoak007 . You're a funny childish bloke

[06/23/06 00:31:18] [100] <DrDoak007> for doing what?
[06/23/06 00:31:39] [100] <DrDoak007> paying to have you killed? it's only money man.
[06/23/06 00:31:50] [100] <Dihelical Synthesis> for thinking you're something serious.
[06/23/06 00:32:06] [100] <Dihelical Synthesis> if you want to kill me, perhaps you should try being a man and do it yourself
[06/23/06 00:32:11] [100] <DrDoak007> ...sure.... whatever....
[06/23/06 00:32:22] [100] <tumblemonster> Why, when Im so inexpensive?
[06/23/06 00:32:32] [100] <St_Nick> yea lol
[06/23/06 00:32:37] [100] <DrDoak007> BOO YAH!

[06/23/06 00:33:39] [100] <DrDoak007> man, i gotta log for 20mins, i have some chat logs to edit and post in the forums!!! see you all in a bit.

As you can see we arent getting together. oh well.

*sigh*

awesome.

Come on! Give us War! We wanna!

I do not recall giving you permission to either post or edit our private correspondance, doak000.5.

Your childish behavior is going to get your guild into trouble.

Quite clearly, this is a private communication protected by spousal privilege. Such communication cannot be revealed without consent of both spouses, which has clearly not have been given here. As such, the court cannot consider DrDoak's statements.

Doink-doink!

Man, SO funny. Two wannabe Guilds fighting each other for the "honor" of trying to take on TGFT. Pffft.

Don't even bother; I suggest you people disband both Guilds, PA as well (if any of you truly do own it) and then delete your characters and start anew. Seriously.

ROFLMAO! If you don't want your statements made public, don't make them! I for one stand behind my statements completely. I stand ready to boom Dihecunjalat0r whenever the call goes out!

ok, despite my better judgement, i read through the logs and can summarize for you all.

1) doak offers to buy out dihelical's guild, is refused
2) doak attempts to convince dihelical that his guild is stronger, fails
3) doak asks for a merger, is brushed off
4) doak retaliates with inane insults, is easily countered by logic
5) doak threatens to grief dihelical, is mostly ignored

and the main point

doak attempts to convince people on the forums that RPing as a guild leader ingame is a bad thing, and gets laughed at by many people, including me.

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

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