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Why you don't use swords made from stainless steel.

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Feb 14, 2004 Archon link
http://therionarms.com/pictures/stainless_steel_warning.mpg

Stainless steel doesn't bend too well.
[topic stolen from AmbSW boards :p]

cheers, @rchie.
Feb 14, 2004 Xorbital link
I want one!
Feb 14, 2004 Pyro link
W00t! I've been wanting to see that! Thanks! :D
Feb 14, 2004 Suicidal Lemming link
LOL
Feb 15, 2004 Pyroman_Ace link
lol, idiot, steel doesn't flex thats why it's used to produce warships...

"The nice thing about these steel Katanas----OH! OW, it GOT ME, THE TIP GOT ME RIGHT THERE. YEAH IT GOT ME PRETTY GOOD."


It was the top selling item that day
Feb 15, 2004 UncleDave link
Go go gadget katana-that-stabs-stupid-people-in-the-arm!
Feb 16, 2004 Icarus link
<metallurgy_tutorial>
I never understood why anyone would use Stainless Steel for swords, other than keeping them looking shiny... Stainless steel is an alloy of steel (Iron) and Chromium. The higher the grade of stainless steel the higher the percentage of Chromium in the mix. Unfortunately, although Chromium is very very hard it does not flex like normal steel does, the outcome being that although stainless steel is harder, it is brittle (as this idiot found out).

PS: normal steel does flex alot... which is why you use it as reinforcement cores in concrete, etc.
</metallurgy_tutorial>
Feb 16, 2004 paedric link
Link is dead. :-(
Feb 16, 2004 Pyroman_Ace link
Make a donation to the Cat Food Fund! Bring back the stupid people of the Shop-At-Home Network!!
Feb 16, 2004 toshiro link
<metallurgic mumbo-jumbo>
Icarus, exactly which "normal" steel are you talking about?
there are, to my knowledge, 3 to 5 kinds of "normal" steel.
be more specific please ;)
may i presume you are alluding to the (probably) most vulgar steel variant (GS235)?
or forged steel, such as is used in japanese knives, swords and other cutting utensils?
</metallurgic mumbo-jumbo>
Feb 16, 2004 Xorbital link
I prefer my swords made of a Cesium Hydroxide compound used for deep sea battles!
Feb 16, 2004 raine link
<metallurgy>
Steel is carbonized, purified iron, in which (through one of varying processes, such as electric smelting or the Bessemer method) impurities in iron are oxidised and removed from the metal, the iron is carbonized (combined with carbon from anthracite or another kind of coal, for example, or metallurgical coke) at high temperatures, and finally bonded to a hardening element such as chromium or manganese. The latter two steps give the steel strength and help it resist dulling and corrosion. Steel is nevertheless very flexible, depending on the process used, the type of coal, the type of hardening agent, proportions of each, and so forth.
</mettalurgy>
Feb 16, 2004 Pyroman_Ace link
Uh-oh, toshiro and raine, the two Metal Men, are goiong at it again. Oh woe to the republic.
Feb 16, 2004 Magus link
"I prefer my swords made of a Cesium Hydroxide compound used for deep sea battles!"

-Are you retarded? Cesium Hydroxide is an aqueous salt. If you took it underwater it would dissolve.
Feb 16, 2004 Pyro link
Oooh, and then you'd die from the fact that it's toxic... :D
Feb 16, 2004 Magus link
And hopefully there would still be some unreacted Cesium in the core so he could go out with a bang.
Feb 16, 2004 Suicidal Lemming link
I'll take 3.
Feb 16, 2004 Pyroman_Ace link
hmm, imagine the military applications of Cesium Harpoons!

Fire it from the deck of a craft then when it strikes on the waterline of an opposing vessel BANG! Similar to the hole created in the USS Cole.

/me thinks Xorbital may be just a bit confused, or Suicidal.

And wouldn't the Cesium Hydroxide be dilluded too much to remain toxic? And sicne he wouldn't be inhaling the most potent form of it couldn't enter and the Hydroxide isn't deadly (I dont beleive) unless it enters an open wound. Merely having it on your skin will cause irritation and maybe some woozyness. Unless he held the sword to his face he wouldn't be in too much danger from the solution. Would he?
Feb 17, 2004 Magus link
"And wouldn't the Cesium Hydroxide be dilluded too much to remain toxic? And sicne he wouldn't be inhaling the most potent form of it couldn't enter and the Hydroxide isn't deadly (I dont beleive) unless it enters an open wound. Merely having it on your skin will cause irritation and maybe some woozyness. Unless he held the sword to his face he wouldn't be in too much danger from the solution. Would he?"

-Only after a few minutes, no, wrong, no, where did you hear this?, no, and yes.
Feb 17, 2004 toshiro link
<metallurgy>
an example on flexibility: the japanese smiths use multiple layers of steel. those layers do have connections between them, but those are more or less flexible so the layers can relocate in a parallel (i have to apologize, but i lack the english terms).
of course this method alone would not produce the famous flexibility of these swords, they also use alloys to further it.
even though you can reach excellent results by creating an alloy alone, it is also the treatment of the final workpiece that provides you with radically different properties
</metallurgy>

about the movie: i wonder why anyone would use a sword to hit a table squarely on the table top... stupid people.