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Nov 20, 2004 andreas link
Just to mention a few ...

- Convoy jumps through the WH immediatly after turboing to it (recharging battery?).
- Convoy in-sector jumps immediatly after coming through the WH, without first getting 3000m distance to the WH.
- Transporter still leaves escort behind.
- If the transporter gets killed in Sedina L2, the escort hangs out near the station and attacks anything Itani.
- If an escort bot attacks a player within the station zone, the defbots ignore it. If the player defends himself, he will be defbotted. Lame.
- Killing a transport has WAY TO LITTLE impact on faction standing with that faction, ESPECIALLY IN ENEMY TERRITORY.
- Capturing enemy cargo has way to little positive impact on standing with the own faction. Also, the monetary compensation is small.
- Cargo distribution is US-centric. Europe is disadvantaged. The entire week doesn't count. Only the weekend matters.

There is probably more, but I am too tired to remember it all.
Nov 21, 2004 Solra Bizna link
I would like to second every one of these.
I cannot count the number of times I have had a transport slip through my fingers by turbo-warping.
Oh, and, nothing is more annoying than finally buying a huge freighter, killing a transport, and finding out that my Vulture had enough cargo space to carry it all.
-:sigma.SB
Nov 21, 2004 Black Omega link
Maybe the bots have FC batterys so no need to wait to recharge.
Nov 21, 2004 Spider link
Erm. @ BO.
your battery -should- be drained after a warp, that means they need to wait at least a short while.

Also, the escorts gets lost along the way. Soemtimes they stay behind, sometimes they don't. I've forgotten how many times there have been itani prosus assaults hanging around in Pelatus and bractus.

There is no reason to defend the convoy. Defenders don't get anything for their time or measure.

Also, the reward is broken. Both nations get the Neutron mkIII, and its hideously unbalanced compared to any weapon in the game.
Nov 21, 2004 andreas link
To add injury to insult, a UIT valk today killed an Itani transport in Divinia. I was not able to intervene, because it would have cost me -1000 faction standing with Itani. The whole faction system is broken beyond repair. Pretty pretty please do something about it. This is very very frustrating.
Nov 21, 2004 CrippledPidgeon link
I don't know if there was massive lag or not, but on two occasions, I saw the message of transports leaving for Pelatus G2, and it took a minute or two after the message for the transport to actually appear.
Nov 22, 2004 CrazySpence link
lets not forget that if the transports enter an ion storm that instead of going to the exit point the go 3k outside the area and warp heh
Nov 24, 2004 andreas link
Bump for Incarnate.
Nov 24, 2004 Spellcast link
Ok, i just chased 3 itani convoys, all 3 of them warped to bractus E-2, and took the wormhole normally. thats good.

Unfortunately the minite they hit pelatus they started taking the fast track, jumping from well within the asteroid field in pelatus, warping before they were at the edras WH, then jumping almost the second they got to the other side, :(
Nov 25, 2004 Cyghost link
I think that you should gain Trade XP for CtC. Maybe some Combat.
Nov 25, 2004 Spider link
[Fri Nov 26 01:22:37 2004] 0050f0[201] *Aerna Transport TT-4270s under attack in Bractus System, Sector C-5!
[Fri Nov 26 01:22:38 2004] 0050f0[201] Transport left for Bractus System, Sector E-2
[Fri Nov 26 01:22:38 2004] 0050f0[201] Transport left for Bractus System, Sector E-2
[Fri Nov 26 01:22:39 2004] 0050f0[201] Transport left for Bractus System, Sector E-2
[Fri Nov 26 01:22:39 2004] 0050f0[201] Transport left for Bractus System, Sector E-2
[Fri Nov 26 01:22:55 2004] 0050f0[201] *Aerna Transport JZ-7182v under attack in Bractus System, Sector E-2!
[Fri Nov 26 01:23:02 2004] 00ff00Itani standing decreased
[Fri Nov 26 01:23:02 2004] 0050f0[201] *Aerna Transport JZ-7182v has been destroyed in Bractus System, Sector E-2!
[Fri Nov 26 01:23:02 2004] Spider destroyed *Aerna Transport JZ-7182v

after this, the first transport was never heard from again.

date
Fri Nov 26 02:10:04 CET 2004
date -u
Fri Nov 26 01:10:08 UTC 2004

Should be enough time to place it with accordance to the server logs. :)
Nov 25, 2004 andreas link
I have to say its really unfair to disallow access to N3 for sercos when the CTC is still totally bugged out.
Nov 25, 2004 Spellcast link
no its not andreas, the serco transports occasionally disappear also so both sides are working under hte same bugs

i do wish that they had leveled the playing field tho and made it so all the n-3's were gone at the start of the next cargo round and then decided who got them on the basis of that.
Nov 25, 2004 Taljin link
I agree andreas ,really sucks not having the neut 3's . I think they should rethink the idea of ctc for weapons . Creates to much of a game balance issue.
Nov 26, 2004 Spider link
well, its commonly considered that the N3 are bugged beyond belief when it comes to balancing anyhow.
Nov 26, 2004 mr_spuck link
Possible reason for the convoys disappearing:
Sometimes when a convoys consist of 2+ transports they tend to jump at rougthly the same spot. Which results in the escort bots getting clobbered together. I've witnessed twice today that bots of one transport shredded through other upon jumping. Resulting in some bots blowing up.
In both cases one or more trans didn't arrive on the other side.
I'm not sure if the escorts actually hit the transport or only escort bots, since I never found ctc cargo at the jumppoint, only ore.

3 transports 2 disappeared:

[Sat Nov 27 02:49:09 2004] ^?00ff00*Aerna Transport RX-3244h warped to Sedina System, Sector B-8
[Sat Nov 27 02:49:09 2004] ^?0050f0[202] Transport left for Sedina System, Sector B-8
[Sat Nov 27 02:49:09 2004] ^?0050f0[202] Transport left for Sedina System, Sector B-8
[Sat Nov 27 02:49:11 2004] ^?00ff00*Aerna Transport RT-5253h warped to Sedina System, Sector B-8
[Sat Nov 27 02:49:11 2004] ^?0050f0[202] Transport left for Sedina System, Sector B-8
[Sat Nov 27 02:49:11 2004] ^?0050f0[202] Transport left for Sedina System, Sector B-8
[Sat Nov 27 02:49:12 2004] ^?00ff00*DenTek Assault DX-3363l warped to Sedina System, Sector B-8
[Sat Nov 27 02:49:12 2004] ^?00ff00*DenTek Assault DX-6992f warped to Sedina System, Sector B-8
[Sat Nov 27 02:49:12 2004] ^?00ff00*Prosus Assault ZBR-9046-85 warped to Sedina System, Sector B-8
[Sat Nov 27 02:49:13 2004] ^?00ff00*DenTek Assault ZT-6818f warped to Sedina System, Sector B-8
[Sat Nov 27 02:49:13 2004] ^?00ff00*Devus D3 Guardian RX-9066l warped to Sedina System, Sector B-8
[Sat Nov 27 02:49:13 2004] ^?00ff00*DenTek Assault DD-8018n warped to Sedina System, Sector B-8
[Sat Nov 27 02:49:13 2004] ^?00ff00*Prosus Assault XWK-7512-76 warped to Sedina System, Sector B-8
[Sat Nov 27 02:49:15 2004] You are entering Sedina B8
[Sat Nov 27 02:49:24 2004] ^?ffb935(guild) [Sedina B8] <mr_spuck> hmm something blewup
[Sat Nov 27 02:49:41 2004] ^?ffb935(guild) [Sedina B8] <mr_spuck> i think spome escorts jumped into each other
[Sat Nov 27 02:49:48 2004] ^?ffb935(guild) [Bractus E2] <Amarus> heh
[Sat Nov 27 02:49:55 2004] ^?ffb935(guild) [Sedina B8] <mr_spuck> or
[Sat Nov 27 02:50:00 2004] ^?0050f0[201] Itani convoy leaving Bractus Watch for Coranis Watch
[Sat Nov 27 02:50:09 2004] ^?ffb935(guild) [Sedina B8] <mr_spuck> wait
[Sat Nov 27 02:50:20 2004] You are entering Sedina L2
[Sat Nov 27 02:50:21 2004] ^?0050f0[202] Transport left for Latos System, Sector O-12
[Sat Nov 27 02:50:21 2004] ^?0050f0[202] Transport left for Latos System, Sector O-12
[Sat Nov 27 02:50:23 2004] ^?ffb935(guild) [Sedina L2] <mr_spuck> only one trans here
[Sat Nov 27 02:50:59 2004] ^?ffb935(guild) [Sedina L2] <mr_spuck> two disapeared !!

2 transports 1 disappeared:

[Sat Nov 27 04:28:52 2004] ^?00ff00*Aerna Transport XD-0408s warped to Sedina System, Sector B-8
[Sat Nov 27 04:28:52 2004] ^?0050f0[202] Transport left for Sedina System, Sector B-8
[Sat Nov 27 04:28:52 2004] ^?0050f0[202] Transport left for Sedina System, Sector B-8
[Sat Nov 27 04:28:54 2004] ^?00ff00*Orion R14 Transport RC-8615f warped to Sedina System, Sector B-8
[Sat Nov 27 04:28:54 2004] ^?0050f0[202] Transport left for Sedina System, Sector B-8
[Sat Nov 27 04:28:54 2004] ^?0050f0[202] Transport left for Sedina System, Sector B-8
[Sat Nov 27 04:28:55 2004] ^?00ff00*DenTek Assault KJ-6412n warped to Sedina System, Sector B-8
[Sat Nov 27 04:28:55 2004] ^?00ff00*DenTek Assault TJ-8435s warped to Sedina System, Sector B-8
[Sat Nov 27 04:28:55 2004] ^?00ff00*Devus D3 Guardian JR-0733c warped to Sedina System, Sector B-8
[Sat Nov 27 04:28:56 2004] ^?00ff00*Valent A-47 Assault XCC-1944-52 warped to Sedina System, Sector B-8
[Sat Nov 27 04:28:56 2004] ^?00ff00*Fennus R-18 Guardian TD-7753l warped to Sedina System, Sector B-8
[Sat Nov 27 04:28:56 2004] ^?00ff00*Valent A-47 Assault ZHZ-6931-03 warped to Sedina System, Sector B-8
[Sat Nov 27 04:28:56 2004] ^?00ff00*Valent A-47 Assault TSR-6192-61 warped to Sedina System, Sector B-8
[Sat Nov 27 04:28:59 2004] ^?ffff00(group) [Sedina B8] <Kixkizzle> woe
[Sat Nov 27 04:28:59 2004] ^?ffb935(guild) [Sedina L2] <mr_spuck> again
[Sat Nov 27 04:29:04 2004] ^?ffff00(group) [Sedina B8] <Kixkizzle> was that u?
[Sat Nov 27 04:29:12 2004] You are entering Sedina B8
[Sat Nov 27 04:29:15 2004] ^?ffff00(group) [Sedina B8] <mr_spuck> no an escort

The time is gmt+1 and my clock is about 5-10 minutes ahead
(Why does the game use the computer time btw?)

could have been a concidence ... but it fits pretty well
Nov 26, 2004 CrippledPidgeon link
I've actually killed combat escorts when jumping. I've noticed that guardian bots tend to not be able to follow the transport through a jump, so when the transport jumps and I follow, anything in my path is either sent spinning in a random direction, or it just explodes. Quite amusing.
Nov 27, 2004 mr_spuck link
The escort bot (there was only one left) of a transport ignored me again. :) :/
Nov 27, 2004 Solra Bizna link
It's fairly easy to cause the guards to abandon the transport, try firing a single shot at a transport before it jumps out of its own system and just... leaving. The escorts will not follow after that.
-:sigma.SB
Dec 01, 2004 Spider link
AGH!

right now a single transport killed off an whole afternoon of work. The increase in delivery from 12 to 26 over an hour -really- disfavours us europeans, especially as it happens at 1 am our time.

AGH! again.