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Mar 04, 2005 TeklinYuroko link
ummm, does lack of answers mean no one has any ideas on what to do... And this was the closest I've come ot finding an mmorpg I enjoyed... Ragnarok was just getting plain monotnous... I wanted something that involved some skill not mindless toil.
Mar 04, 2005 roguelazer link
Try using the port triggering in your router.

[check] Vendetta Online 21024 TCP
[check] Vendetta Online 21141 UDP

And if you have ZoneAlarm or whatever running, double check to make sure that Vendetta has access and server permissions to internet.
Mar 04, 2005 TeklinYuroko link
Alright do I place anything in the boxes

Public Ports From [blank] To [blank]
Public Port Type[options: TCP,UDP, both]
Mar 04, 2005 TeklinYuroko link
It seems I could only put in one port triggering setting. This is what I put in, it didn't work so either I did it wrong or that wasn't part of the problem....



Enable [checked]

Application Name [Vendetta]


Trigger Port [21024]


Trigger Port Type [TCP]


Public Ports
From 21141 To 21141

Public Port Type [UDP]
Mar 04, 2005 roguelazer link
Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling the whole thing?
Mar 04, 2005 TeklinYuroko link
Yep one of the first things I did. Want me to do it again?
Mar 04, 2005 TeklinYuroko link
Now here's something odd I hit ctrl-alt-delete, to see if there was any cpu usage and I noticed a network tab. There isn't any network usage at all while I'm using the patch updater. Is this normal?
Mar 04, 2005 roguelazer link
No, it isn't. It really sounds like some software on your machine is blocking VO. Maybe the Windows default firewall thingy is turned on?
Mar 04, 2005 TeklinYuroko link
No, its off. I'm sure of that. Did that data you asked me to give you was of any help?
Mar 04, 2005 roguelazer link
Nah, all it shows is that you're connecting to the vo game server ok with no major lag points inbetween besides your router (which is normal). Here's mine, for comparison:

$ sudo /usr/sbin/traceroute -p 21024 majikthise.guildsoftware.com
traceroute to 207-67-118-42.guildsoftware.com (207.67.118.42), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
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Some day, all this is going to stop working for me, and I'm going to be in big trouble. :P
Mar 04, 2005 mr_spuck link
uh ... I think that would have to be:

Enable [checked]

Application Name [Vendetta]

Trigger Port [21024]

Trigger Port Type [TCP]

Public Ports
From 21024 To (leave blank) or (21024)

Public Port Type [TCP]

Don't think that will help though.
Mar 04, 2005 TeklinYuroko link
Nope didn't work but Thanks for trying. :) I need some kind of program that'll seek out whats blocking it then report back. The Ragnarok patch updater worked fine, I wonder what is blocking this...
Mar 04, 2005 sloanesky link
Maybe your router has a built in firewall? Ive had problems of this nature with mine before.
Mar 04, 2005 TeklinYuroko link
I've been thinking about that, I've looked thru it, but can't find it yet... The closest thing was an encrytion key.
Mar 04, 2005 TeklinYuroko link
heheheheeh, found the problem firewall feature on the firewall. Had to search support at dell.com to find that out. Here is the message.
This section will assist in configuring the Dell TrueMobile 2300 Router for gaming. In some cases, the firewall feature of the router will cause a game not to function as intended. This document will not provide details for each game, but will discuss how to open TCP/IP ports for one or more system.
WARNING: Operating any client systems on the Internet without firewall protection may allow un-authorized access to a system. This may lead to data loss.

Follow below steps to set up the router for gaming:

1. Select the system or systems to be used as game systems.
2. Locate the MAC address.

For Windows 2000 and XP

1. Click Start -> Run.
2. Type cmd, and click OK.
3. On the command prompt, type ipconfig /all
4. Write down the MAC (Physical) address of your computer to configure for gaming.

3. Open the web browser, and type http://my.router (or http://192.168.2.1)
4. Click the Advanced Settings tab.
5. Click the DHCP Server Settings tab on the left navigation bar.
6. Click Add button in IP Address Reservation,
1. Enter the MAC address of the system you wish to use for gaming in MAC Address field.
2. Enter an IP address for the system (select a number between 101 and 254)
7. Click Submit.
8. Click the Port Forwarding Settings tab on the left navigation bar.
1. To set a single computer for gaming, check the Enable DMZ Host box.
2. Enter the IP address of the system at DMZ IP Address field.
3. Click Submit.

I've actually done this before but the problem was that I got two physical addresses I've tried both and it doesn't seem to work...
Mar 04, 2005 TeklinYuroko link
Here is my ipconfig

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Jonathon>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : JourneyMan
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Cont
roller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0F-1F-1D-71-83

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Dell Wireless WLAN 1350 WLAN Mini-PC
I Card
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-90-96-CC-F3-96
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.150
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
207.217.77.82
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, March 04, 2005 8:10:43 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, March 05, 2005 8:10:43 PM

C:\Documents and Settings\Jonathon>
Mar 04, 2005 roguelazer link
You shouldn't have to do it. I've never had to with friends' dell routers...
Mar 04, 2005 TeklinYuroko link
Here's another message from the guy who knows nothing about networks. I was doing more research and it may not of worked due to having two pcs hooked up on the same network. I have to activate custom port forward settings. I just don't understand the form I have to fill out. First is service name, which isn't a problem. Then incoming ports along with destination ports I get hung up here. If destination ports is yalls then should it be 21024 TO 21141? And then I would put port types on both? And since there is an incoming port along with the destination port what would I put in there?

There is a another spot to put a destination ip address is that my ip address? Maybe if I get this filled out right it will finally work...
Mar 05, 2005 a1k0n link
No, you don't have to enable any port forwarding for Vendetta. There aren't any ports to forward to you, so there aren't any values that make sense for you to put into that form.

You are already able to connect to the update server, but the connection hangs before it starts downloading anything. Port forwarding helps you establish connections from the internet to your machine, but you're establishing connections the other way - from your machine to ours, and it apparently works (for a while).

The only helpful advice I have, which isn't terribly helpful, is to try a different router.

I recently tried to diagnose a similar problem at my uncle's office - the network behind their Netgear router would sorta work, but hang on any large amount of data. Spent hours trying to figure out what the deal is, since if we bypassed the router it worked fine. My uncle replaced the thing, and the new one worked fine. It's possible that a static discharge partially blew out a pulse transformer coil in the ethernet jack, or some other weird hardware issue, while they were moving it.
Mar 05, 2005 roguelazer link
Or that it's just a cheap dell POS. I've never had problems like his, but try setting up a wireless one in AP mode instead of Router mode... Ouch!