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Make Deneb C-10 monitored sector

Jun 05, 2006 bojansplash link
That could put an end to faction system exploiting pkers with both sides admire status preying on ppl who actually took mission and are fighting bots.
Faction gain/loss in BP sector would actually be an improvement toward a more realistic faction system.
Jun 05, 2006 Sun Tzu link
Correct me if I'm wrong but blue SF's show up if a Serco with bad Itani standing enters into monitored Itani space.
Jun 05, 2006 Lord Q link
would that matter?

i mean the missiomn is to kill anyone from the other side isn't it? shouldn't killing the SF be the same?
Jun 05, 2006 bojansplash link
Ok, youve got a point Sun.
And no Lord Q, C-10 is a BP mission sector for both sides, having itani SF messing it up will not be ok.
I hope there is a workaround and monitoring rule can be applied without triggering sf in C10.
Its a question for devs now.
Jun 05, 2006 TRS link
This would only protect itani players from said pk, and not sercos.
Anyone that can kill you, can be killed by you. Kill em!
Jun 05, 2006 bojansplash link
Not true TRS. If C-10 is monitored /but without sf/ any killing of itani or serco player would mean a standing drop for pker.

Speaking hypothetically:
Ayn Eziert jumps into C10 in search for an easy bpers pks.
He is in a valkyre because he has +999 Itani standing and also +999 Serco standing.
No BP bots from either side attack him so he casually gets behind some heavilly damaged Itani player fighting 3 BP bots and shoots him in the back killing him.

In CURRENT FACTION SYSTEM he has no problems, he can immediatelly pick on another damaged player surrounded by bots and kill him, etc.

However if C-10 is MONITORED scenarIo goes quite differently:
Ayn shoots Itani BPer in the back.
Vrooom.
Ayns Itani standing goes from admire to KOS.

Same rules apply to Itani standing exploiters trying to score easy serco pks.

Standing exploit solved.
Jun 05, 2006 TRS link
Only if C-10 is monitored by both factions. If I kill someone with positive serco standing in itani space, serco won't care, and if they are itani kos, itani won't care either.

Like I say, Just kill them. I actually like the fact that I can go to C-10 and kill the guys picking off newbs, reguardless of their standings. (hehe, it's even fun just to go make a new char and pretend to be a newb, just so I can smack some would be pk, and then ask them "how do I make my ship stop rolling?")
Jun 05, 2006 LeberMac link
Happens all the time. Solution? Kill the hyneas like Ayn & SH & BG immediately. Really, whenever any of those folks jump into C-10 or B-12 in Deneb, I swear, everyone in my guild and usually everyone in the group I'm fighting in IMMEDIATELY switches targets to make them feel oh-so-welcome.

All you have to do is announce "____ here", and everyone starts lookin for 'em. It's community enforcement.
Jun 05, 2006 Cunjo link
It wouldn't work. A system can only be monitored by ONE nation, so either the Serco get protected or the Itani do, not to mention, players would actually get a REWARD for killing the opposing faction in monitored space. Furthermore, you'd generate one-sided SF, which would mess things up majorly.

Best solution, as I see it, is to script the BP bots to immediately change targets and attack players who are not taking the mission when they enter the sector. That would put the pressure on the exploiting players and make it easier for those taking the mission to kill them. If it's possible, making kiling them count toward the mission would help too, since that's one of the big peeves about spending a lot of time fending them off - even if you succeed, you've just wasted mission time for nothing.

Finally, get rid of the Friendly Fire restriction, so that what Leber claims to happen is actually possible (yea, sorry Leber) and the Serco CAN attack Ayn (believe me, if it wasn't for Friendly Fire issues, Ayn would be on SCAR's KOS list) - nobody likes those dishonerable scumbags.
Jun 05, 2006 Ghost link
I think this will all be fixed once the devs fix the faction system.

I've been a long supporter of removing friendly fire as well, but I won't start my rant on that.
Jun 05, 2006 TRS link
I think Cunjo had a good idea.
Make it so that anyone who enters C-10, B-12 without the right mission is automatically temporary KOS for all nations, untill they leave the sector.
Jun 05, 2006 bojansplash link
Good idea.:)
Jun 05, 2006 slime73 link
Not B12, because it's a WH sector. Say the Deneb Run is going on, and you warp into B12 and die because 4 Itani teradons were camping the WH.
Jun 05, 2006 TRS link
I see your point.... Every one that enters the sector should be temp kos reguardless of mission. great idea.