Unlike capital swarm turrets which have a delay, firecracker turrets have effecitvely no delay and can, with the assistance of a turret switching plugin, be fired in a rapid fire, never ending spam barrage.

Because their ammo count is 6 and not unlimited, I take this to indicate than an intention of a limit to how much they can be fired exists, and leads me to believe the current usage of some players in spamming unlimited firecrackers is NOT intended behavior.

I propose the following:

-Add a reloading delay of 10 seconds to the firecrackers (that begins when the last firecracker has been fired)

-Enable a delay of 1.5 seconds to leave a turret once joined so that automatic plugins cannot fire the turrets faster than the built-in +ActivateTurrets function can.

It might be that it makes sense to also increase the ammo count (i.e. to 8) so that some LIMITED spamming can occur (as this is how they are most effective). But the key here is that it shouldn't be unlimited spammage.

Nerf bomber rags too :P

Nerf bomber rags too :P

You need to keep your posts aligned to the rules of the forums.

I have zero interest in sarcasm, trolling or other BS here. Speak honestly to the topic, or not at all.

@incarnate
You need to keep your posts aligned to the rules of the forums.

I have zero interest in sarcasm, trolling or other BS here. Speak honestly to the topic, or not at all.
Yea I'll admit there was a little sarcasm but if we are going but greenwalls logic rags with Gemini an swarms isn't that spam too?
Also ama say it... @incarnate if you look at the suggestion forums it's mostly been post from greenwall. And iirc you your self involve your self in ingame politics and other stuff most of the post he has made is mainly because he sees something he doesn't like.
Am just gonna spit ball does this mean greenwall is trolling? Or something along those lines?
On a side note am speaking honestly on the past topics and this one.

Firecrackers are a manufactured turret (limited to two manufactured per day) with a low damage potential. Their biggest use is to keep someone(like pirates) from chasing. They need to fire fast to achieve this kind of defense.

If this proposal is implemented I suggest one of two things:

1) their damage and concussion be increased to compensate for the reload delay.

Or

2) their current reload speed be kept but their concussion increased and a pcb affect added with their damage reduced to zero

Either of these would be vastly superior options to nerfing a valid defensive missile option.

+1 to We all floats idea. Or, alternatively, implement greenwall's suggestion but instead of 6 the ammo should be heavily buffed to something like 120.

Am just gonna spit ball does this mean greenwall is trolling? Or something along those lines?

No, it doesn't. Trolling is a disingenuous process of raising a point (regardless of personal belief), for the purpose of getting a "rise" out of someone else (irritating an adversary).

Greenwall doesn't like stuff, and wants to change things he doesn't like. That happens a lot, from most players, it often motivates some form of Suggestion.

The "litmus test" of whether the Suggestion is reasonable is whether it:

1) Solely serves some kind of myopic and self-centered goal. OR..

2) Is a legitimate assessment of a gameplay flaw that creates a generally-problematic imbalance, and should be addressed.

I've seen well-intentioned players do both. And I've seen some players that seemingly can't do anything but #1, and eventually get themselves kicked off of the forum.

A more succinct answer to your overall question can probably be found in Rule #3, specifically:

Critique the Suggestion and not the Person.

If you have a response to make on the merits of the Suggestion, then say so. But "politics" doesn't enter into this forum. I don't care who is in what guild or when, or who represents what game style, or who has a history of annoying X set of other players.

We're here to read the content of the post on its own merits. It has to stand or fall on its own, and solely on responses that can be made to the Suggestion content itself.

So, no, I don't want sarcasm..

On a side note am speaking honestly on the past topics and this one.

I believe that you are speaking honestly, which is why I'm responding to you in-thread instead of simply thread-muting you; but I'm also saying you need to elevate and improve the way you deliver your points. Don't make trivial one-line sniping retorts. That is unhelpful and not welcome here. Explain why the Suggestion is problematic and write content to support your position.

I don't think nerfing, an already rarely used weapon, is a healthy way to address perceived problems.

A 10 second reload delay is just insane. Especially for a weapon that does hardly any damage at all. If anything this weapon needs a buff.

I think the real problem you want addressed is a way to stop players from using turret switching plugins and should've just suggested that.

There is more than one way to skin a cat, boda.