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Who makes the shop plugins?

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Jan 03, 2016 Sanis Onis link
I've attempted to make my own bot for selling hive stuff I can't get it to load cargo any help?
Jan 03, 2016 Inevitable link
You can take a look at the manu plugin to see how he does it.
Jan 03, 2016 Dr. Lecter link
We don't need more of that fucking spam on 100.
Jan 03, 2016 TheRedSpy link
Depending on your level of programming experience you might want to start with something more basic.

Shop plugins are very advanced (well, they're not really, but a good one should be). I learned programming writing vendetta online plugins but I started with basic plugins and worked my way up by adding features to other ones.

We have a plugin API called racecar wiki, I don't know why it's called racecar wiki but here's a link to the function you want:

http://www.vo-wiki.com/racecar2/index.php?title=API_LoadCargo

If your bot is annoying like aVOIDable or MC lazer just remember it will be muted and abused and abducted by tridents and tortured and such so consider yourself warned.
Jan 03, 2016 Kierky link
Making a properly stable shop bot takes a while. And a lot of debugging goes into it since it never ends up the way you envision it to begin with.

I made the second shop bot in the game, behind "Scar Bank" by Nautgaros. Mine was made from scratch, and a lot less exploitable and more stable.
The third one was made by Lanigiro Elbbarcs. Each one is a new plugin made without reference to each other.
The bots who ran the person's corresponding shop plugin is as follows:

Scar Bank - Nautgaros
ITAN Shop - Estrian Prosis
shopie - Lanigiro Elbbarcs
Little Shop of Horrors - Estrian Prosis (Harpo runs an older incarnation of ITAN Shop's code)
Jan 04, 2016 csgno1 link
I pulled the code from your repo about a month after you closed your shop, there is a newer version somewhere?
Jan 04, 2016 Kierky link
Yeah its about 30 revisions older, I haven't updated it in a while. I might get around to it soon.
Jan 04, 2016 Sanis Onis link
My bot will not post to 100 rather if u send it creds a certain amount will make him load 10 of a item then lauch Jett /explode maybe 3-4 set prices one for hive posi one for hive gat and on for avs

If someone could just make me a function load_cargo(hiveposi) that would be great seeing as I don't know how I'd find item id
Jan 04, 2016 Pizzasgood link
If you can't figure out how to program a shop bot, you have no business running a shop bot. Instead of asking people to do it for you, take the time to learn how to do it yourself. Otherwise things will go wrong and you won't know how to fix it on your own, which will lead to delays, unhappy customers, and a terrible reputation.

Speaking of which... Harpo, you need to check if LSoH is still working correctly. I tried to buy four avalons from it last Thursday (Thu 31 Dec 2015 11:30:39 PM EST). It took my money and then locked up instead of undocking with my avalons. It kept saying it was "in the process of a transaction" any time I tried talking to it after that. I almost forgot to raise a stink about it, but this thread reminded me. :)

I'm going to be away from home for a week or two due to vacation nonsense, so trying to be online at the same time for a refund won't be practical. Just put the money back in my account with LSoH and I'll try spending it again after I get home.
Jan 04, 2016 Darth Nihilus link
That's why shop bots with accounts are lame!

TRI-bot coming soon(TM)...
Jan 04, 2016 draugath link
If anything, the recent surge in shop bots illustrates that there is a demand for offline sales of goods in some manner. It's been suggested multiple times before that it should be possible for players to post items for sale at stations, amongst many other similar suggestions. I would rather see this sort of feature added and the shop bots made obsolete than see more of them spring up polluting the chat space, since no one can agree to use a different channel for their shop spam.
Jan 04, 2016 TheRedSpy link
I fucking hate shop bots!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jan 04, 2016 yodaofborg link
I especially hate the ones that post on ch1 too! I mean, who the hell on ch1 can afford that shit anyway?
Jan 04, 2016 Hoban-Wash-Washburne link
Players being able to list items at stations would be so much better than shop bots. Should this move to suggestions?
Jan 04, 2016 csgno1 link
@Pizzasgood

Sorry about that. I'll make it good.

It's not that I can't program a shop bot, it's that I have no interest in programming one. When Kierky closed his shop there seemed to be some demand and since I had access to his repo I figured I'd just continue where he left off. I didn't know at first I had an old version, at that time he was not around to discuss it. When he was leaving I told him what I planned to so and just assumed the latest version would be in the repo. I fixed some of the major bugs but at this point I'll either get the debugged version from him or I'll drop the whole thing. I'll get you your avs. I don't want to leave it running for some other person to get screwed. I was planning to open up shops in Itan and Sol II as well, but not until it works right. And they would not all have been posting on 100. Just one, and more than an hour apart.

There are suggestion threads going back years asking for a way to sell from a station on consignment or something, etc.. I agree with draugath and Hoban. Maybe something will rise from the n2 market experiment. I hope so because you're right, this is not a good solution.
Jan 05, 2016 scham link
About the shop spam on 100...

I would like to reduce the spam on 100. Currently shopie posts one message per hour.

What would be the best way to reduce spam. E.g. My possible customers in Dau should somehow get the information about shopie selling lenbs in Latos N-15. How could this be achieved without posting on 100?

I'm gonna reduce the post rate on 100 and start using sector advertisements when someone jumps in.

Sorry for the spam :/

[Edit] P.S. I could use sector messages to tell pilots to /join my channel :)

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Lanigiro Elbbarcs
Jan 06, 2016 Breazle link
Don't do sector spam, if you wanted to go down the route of when we happen to find the bot you will talk then when we enter sector you private message the player and add them to a list so they don't get messaged again for a month.

Create your own channel that players can join if they wish to see daily/weekly promotions etc
Jan 06, 2016 Kierky link
Holy paragraph punctuation batman. I had an aneurysm trying to read that.
Jan 07, 2016 starblazzz link
I fixed my plugin!!!!!

( FYI I am sanis onis)
May 21, 2018 Nyscersul link
If anyone wants a publicly available shop bot, email me at Nyscersul@gmail.com,

I'll write one if the desire is large enough.