Because the valk already has the firepower and armor to outdo the others. Perhaps if the centurion was fixed this would be a moot point. But until then it is very applicable.

Centurion already has a role. Put a gauss on one of them and in cap fights, it will kill the larger ships every time.

Magus:

"but I do not think it should have the ability to dictate the terms of any fight."

Agility has always picked the fights, even throughout history. The guy with the fastest army picks the battle ground, and can choose to attack his enemy in whatever spot he wishes.

The Serco Prometheus is severely disabled in a fight. It's supposed to be a heavy bomber/armored transport. Right. So it has the heavy part down, it's slow, and it's got an assload of armor, but what about the bomber part? It's got ONE L slot. ONE.

I've always thought this to be a bit absurd in my opinion. It doesn't have much more firepower than a similarly eqipped hog, which is much less expensive. The Valk is much better than it's counterpart vult in almost every respect, so why can't the prometheus be better than the rag? So what if the rag has a little bit less durability, it's got one more s port and L port, it can trash a prom no problem.

Am I the only one who thinks this is silly?

Well I said it before but I won't feel good till I've said it agian. The Valk is unblanced because it can negate the advantages of any other ship. Case closed (I wish at least, ppl will be yelling about how that isn't true for hours, mabey even months)

I might quote the old thread later, I'm sick and tired right now (no realy I've have untreated broncitus for 2 weeks)

I've always thought this to be a bit absurd in my opinion. It doesn't have much more firepower than a similarly eqipped hog, which is much less expensive. The Valk is much better than it's counterpart vult in almost every respect, so why can't the prometheus be better than the rag? So what if the rag has a little bit less durability, it's got one more s port and L port, it can trash a prom no problem.

Actually you are comparing it with the wrong ship. The prom is in reallity an upgrade of the wraith. Just look closely at its stats, its hull and its description, and youll know what I mean.

cheers

PS: Daon, I die just as easilly in a valk as in a vult.
PPS: like I stated in one of my previous posts, give every nation their specials, but in stea dof keeping it to 1 type, give them 3 that fullfill the standard roles.

fighter
trader
bomber

Depending on the strenghts and weaknesses of each race, you start altering the basic workframe of these 3 roleships.

I have done this in one of my previous posts.

Then jack up the price to 250k if the economy stays like it is now.

cheers

I think the valks ability to hit & run is what makes it so much better than other ships. With the valk a player can zip in do a LOT of damage then zip out without getting hit. If the cent could do hit & runs it wouldn't be a problem because it has only one small port and it's hull is small.

The cent CAN do hit and runs. Try it sometime, it's a lot of fun. :D

The Valk cannot negate the trading advantage of either the Marauder or the Prom. It just can't. If you want to make money you'll have to get out of the Valk.

Or find a cent or prom that's hauling cargo and steal it.

What annoys me is the valk jock whom you best in a fight, except that before he dies, he turns and runs away to the dock. Being around 2 or 3% yourself, you head in, except that he has repaired and rearmed, and comes back out to finish you off.

Odds are that if you hotly pursue him, you'll get to the station a couple of seconds after him. Come on people, it's not like the Valk can go faster, it just has faster acceleration. If it were many times faster than a ship, that's a different story. Another option is head to another sector.

Well, I mostly pilot heavy ships, so the truth is that they get in and out by the time I get near the dock about 80% of the time. I could head for the wormhole, but with the state of the universe right now, chances are that I'd just run smack into three more valk jocks.

Well, that's your problem. The heaview AREN'T SUPPOSED to outrun and outmaneuver the lights. They never have. Hire escorts if you don't like it, but if you want a Valk to have the acceleration of a Rag, well, that's never going to happen.

The heavies just need a better way of defending themselves. Mines are pretty darned easy to avoid. Once you get hit you'll know how to adjust for the rest of 'em. Not too hard.

A combination of adv gat, lmines and geminis is very effective I find.

Mines are an excellent defense against Valks. I've dissuaded several in the past hour in a heavy.

Ctishman, piloting a heavy is your choice. Expect a fighter to re-equip and be back before you can get there. But I'm curious, what heavy are you flying? It'd have to be a Rag or Centuar, because I exclusively fly a Prom and can be on the heels of any Valk that picks a fight with me.

I think the Prom's hull can be slightly boosted again since it's agility was last lowered to balance it out. The Ragnarok's and Centaur's hull points was also increased, making this special ship now only a difference of 2k hull points. That's not too impressive for a special ship. Just something to consider.

I agree with Arolte. The maud could use a couple extra cargo spaces too.

I agree with Arolte but disagree with Hunter Alpha. However, I think the valk should go down to 2 cargo.

Heh, roguelazer, yes! When the Valk had 6 cargo, it was the ultimate pirating vehicle. If too many ppl are pirating in a Valk I think even taking it down to 3 would be effective. It makes sense that the Valk wouldn't have much space for cargo since it is an "advanced fighter" and uses all its space for weapon ports, armor, and maneuvering thrusters.

Yeah, Valk needs to have 2 cargo.

Marauder is fine, imo.

Centuar needs more cargo space, though, as well as more hull.