I tried to reign their posts in, it failed, I'm done. My posts were an attempt to enforce the "be nice" policy, which I readily admit is not my job.

For starters, it's "REIN" -- in other news, you can stop breathing through your mouth if you like. I promise your nose will serve its intended function.

Next, I see that your barely functional lump of grey matter is perking up! But you're still not getting the key point here, and it's one on which rok is also apparently unclear:

You (and the other asshats bandying about the "MOMMY, X GROUP BROKE VAGUE RULE # Y!!111" crap) are missing the fact that all of these rules and standards are written in such a way circumspect way as to have no objective definition. None. At all.

Whether any given conduct even violates the rule/standard, much less merits enforcement against that violation, is something only a Dev/Guide/Forum Mod can determine. Harassing behavior is not something you're qualified to even identify, to say nothing of decide what to do about it.

Anyway, it's so nice to see a [VPR] deigning to let us rude creatures carry on with a modicum of personal autonomy. Don't trip in front of a subway car in the midst of a holiday crush -- that would break my fucking heart.

Lecter, you are a poet.

You misinterpret... I'm not trying to make the griefing stop, because I can't really decide what others are going to say. I am merely participating in the argument that some CHRN aren't griefers, because of abusive posts and ingame chat.

Maalik understand that I'm not calling all of CHRN griefers, I believe there are some of you (Wild Thing, Maalik, Chaak, Smaug, Shape, Xico) are respectable players of the game. I don't like how CHRN denies they include griefers because the statement is incorrect.

Ill gladly teach people how to evade, engage in effective banter instead of complaining and also scatter techniques.

I've lived through Charlie manson, Icarus , Khral/arolte, the current set of pirates are good chasers. I wouldn't call them griefers though. Nor would I call any of the above that.

I miss all 3 of those evil doers they made it fun

Petryos was good at ticking everyone off, not a griefer, good chaser

Lecter is good at yelling everyone but also not a griefer, doesn't mean he isn't deadly mind you.

Rest of the pirates are kinda easy to escape.

VPR i like what you guys do for traders and newbs but the overconfidence isn't helping

I just wish everyone would stop having pissing contests on 100 and the forums on literally every thread.

I dont log into quake live and yell at people who kill me as I am trying to collect all the power ups and shards. Same thing here, you may hate the fps comparison but sorry, it is a space fps with characters and missions. Watch your ass or die.

I still stand by the fact that you don't get griefed unless you do it on purpose because escape is not impossible or hard.

I'd also like to comment, because of the refuse to pay list. Don't refuse to pay if you suck at escaping or won't request help. I can refuse because i have a 90% escape rate, those of you in your XC's that take 5 minutes to reach 180m/s SHOULD PAY OR HAVE AN ESCORT

anyways, that's that from me.

"I just wish everyone would stop having pissing contests on 100 and the forums on literally every thread."

Amen.

FOR THE LAST FUCKING TIME I AM NOT A GRIEFER!

Strat is a griefer. VIPER are griefers. I haven't harrassed anyone. I haven't killed anyone over and over, trapped them in a station, nothing.

You can keep saying it but it's just as boldfaced a lie as it was last time.

So just kill him. Everybody knows vpr are tools. They were tools when olde SCAR handed them their engines and they are tools today :P

I think it's abundantly clear that there isn't anyone who fits the definition of a griefer currently playing this game. As such, let's quit using the term and move on. That includes strat. He is a fanatical moron who is ruining VPR, but I think it's giving him too much credit to say that it's intentional.

Atice, consider your apology conditionally accepted. You're still taking a rather high-and-mighty attitude on the whole issue, which isn't constructive.

Amen, Crazy.
/ignore for all of you that think you are getting "griefed" on 100.
All of you station trapped or getting killed, use a hog2 with a fast charge cell and you can go to any of the other 7,679 sectors in the game. Other than the one you are being griefed in, that is.

If there were less assholes in CHRN, then people would be less inclined to call them griefers. *Most* people in that guild are complete asshats. Maalik, tumble, etc.

If there were less assholes in CHRN

Yawn.

Actually, I think there is some merit to the idea that I am responsible for Ecka et al. calling CHRN a griefer guild. But I think you might be confused about what the term means, Estrian. Can you try a little harder? Most of us are trying to move forward.

What really frustrates ecka, et al. is that CHRN is comprised of capable pirates who excel at the most important (dev created and approved) aspect of the game, that being PvP.

We're 10 active people, maybe 5 at a time, yet we take up all your energy because you want this game to be WoW or Eve where grinding will bring you dominance, and it's not. You have to be good to get by, and you're mostly not.

I think you hit the nail on the head that time, Imp.

I'd like to add to this that Whistler is an excellent Forum Moderator and we'd be nowhere without his even-handed... well... moderation skills.

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Only thing I listened to in this whole thread is what Mystic said. The rest is just a big pile of stinkin you know what.