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Sure are. Of course all mine are in TGFT/ITAN/SKV right?
Oh, how foolish youthfulness makes you disregard and spit on the wisdom of the elderly! Don't say that TRS didn't warn you when VOID becomes something.... else.
Do not presume to confuse my words with Bojans. He is very intelligent and you should not take his views lightly, however I never said you were an Itan/TGFT puppet guild and I didn't use that express terminology. I don't know if that's where you're getting it from but I am not part of any 'slander squad' and I definitely don't miss 'the good old days'. If you were around in the 'good old days' you'd remember how often I bitched about how not enough was being done to progress features and drive more conflict between guilds.
Neither am I over-thinking things, I don't need to think about this for very long to see what's going to happen here. Here's a screenshot from the last week.
Your guildies along with the TGFT fought alongside Itan against us. Now I might be the most open-minded Serco in the history of the Dominion, but even I'd consider this puts you in a position of mutual exclusivity with regards to your choice of future allies. Even if you decide later that you like some of the Serco and you'd like an alliance with them you're at a severe diplomatic disadvantage after having fought alongside our enemies over and over again.
Now in this situation you're likely to say "oh it's not our fault, our policy was clear that individual members choose to fight who they will and it doesn't reflect the diplomatic stance of VOID as a whole" but all people will hear is "bla bla bla, bla bla bla bla, bla bla bla" and you'll start blaming us for the fact that we refuse to ally with you. Pretty soon your members will exclusively fight for TGFT/Itan.
After that happens the members are going to look at VOID and look at Itan or TGFT and say; well, the difference between the two in terms of what we actually do is so tiny, we might as well be in TGFT/Itan, they've after all got bots, plugins, more cash and they're not run by a 14 year old whiney girl etc.. etc.. and your members will leave. Unless of course they are like Sieger where they already have the benefits of the plugins/bots and council forum access in which case for all intents and purposes they are TGFT and they really do carry their baggage.
You are failing to distinguish your guild in any meaningful way. That's the bottom line.
Neither am I over-thinking things, I don't need to think about this for very long to see what's going to happen here. Here's a screenshot from the last week.
Your guildies along with the TGFT fought alongside Itan against us. Now I might be the most open-minded Serco in the history of the Dominion, but even I'd consider this puts you in a position of mutual exclusivity with regards to your choice of future allies. Even if you decide later that you like some of the Serco and you'd like an alliance with them you're at a severe diplomatic disadvantage after having fought alongside our enemies over and over again.
Now in this situation you're likely to say "oh it's not our fault, our policy was clear that individual members choose to fight who they will and it doesn't reflect the diplomatic stance of VOID as a whole" but all people will hear is "bla bla bla, bla bla bla bla, bla bla bla" and you'll start blaming us for the fact that we refuse to ally with you. Pretty soon your members will exclusively fight for TGFT/Itan.
After that happens the members are going to look at VOID and look at Itan or TGFT and say; well, the difference between the two in terms of what we actually do is so tiny, we might as well be in TGFT/Itan, they've after all got bots, plugins, more cash and they're not run by a 14 year old whiney girl etc.. etc.. and your members will leave. Unless of course they are like Sieger where they already have the benefits of the plugins/bots and council forum access in which case for all intents and purposes they are TGFT and they really do carry their baggage.
You are failing to distinguish your guild in any meaningful way. That's the bottom line.
I've come to the conclusion that not enough people are playing for guild politics to really matter in game. It matters more on the forums, and only for the purposes of people who like to bloviate.
Do something about it.
Why? I like having incompetent enemies.
It's poor Bojan I feel for, he's not going to want incompetent allies.
It's poor Bojan I feel for, he's not going to want incompetent allies.
Incompetency is something you must excel at, I was shooting at that TGFT and I was discussing ITANs payment and key status.
A lot of claims are being made about what VOID is, or what are position is on a certain guild.
Let me clarify.
There is not a current guild [VOID] is not targeting.
If you have the luxury to receive the option to pay by all means do not confuse it with some kind of formal alliance.
Every active guild with more then 1 active member has paid [VOID], and will continue to.
I highly suggest organizing.
A lot of claims are being made about what VOID is, or what are position is on a certain guild.
Let me clarify.
There is not a current guild [VOID] is not targeting.
If you have the luxury to receive the option to pay by all means do not confuse it with some kind of formal alliance.
Every active guild with more then 1 active member has paid [VOID], and will continue to.
I highly suggest organizing.
It seems VOID is the new BLAK.
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A lot of claims are being made about what VOID is, or what are position is on a certain guild.
Let me clarify.
There is not a current guild [VOID] is not targeting.
That's funny, because Jordan just said you have a 'free will' policy. Which would mean that there are guilds you aren't targeting - the ones that your members don't want to target.
That's kind of the point.
You're definitely both politicians the way you're avoiding directly addressing the question.
Let me clarify.
There is not a current guild [VOID] is not targeting.
That's funny, because Jordan just said you have a 'free will' policy. Which would mean that there are guilds you aren't targeting - the ones that your members don't want to target.
That's kind of the point.
You're definitely both politicians the way you're avoiding directly addressing the question.
You assume that VOID wants to side with a guild other than its own.
You are mistaken.
You are mistaken.
You assume that VOID wants to side with a guild other than its own.
VOID doesn't have a mind of it's own. It's members want to side with Itan and TGFT. That's an observation.
VOID doesn't have a mind of it's own. It's members want to side with Itan and TGFT. That's an observation.
TRS, far be it from me to point stuff out, but you do know ITAN n TGFT like, shoot each other n stuff now? Not trying to take anything away from your very valid points, but they have been at war* for a while now.
*well, as much at war as you can be in VO.
*well, as much at war as you can be in VO.
Actaully yoda, last night TGFT & ITAN were working together to take i8.
After my brief hiatus I decide to return just to find everything is in a state of a messy flux:
1. SKV key that has been securing normal and free access to conq stations for a myriad of VO guilds and pilots (thus providing some order in the universe) has been compromised by yet unknown VOID perpetrator
2. VOID, once SKV friendly band of brigands has been compromised by a bunch of TGFT infiltrators (Sieger, Greenwall, kenny, etc.)
3. Conq stations are mostly in TGFT hands or TGFT infiltrators hands that enable TGFT to use them
4. Our ally ITAN (who is officially at war with TGFT) , as it seems, is actually working with TGFT
5. FAMY who were helping us keep the order by defending stations have pulled back and probably have no other choice but to side with ONE in this mess
The only ones that are consistent and haven't added anything to this mess are serco nationalists (ONE) and the ones really profiting from this mess are TGFT.
It seems that SKV has to return as 'forrest rangers' and clear this mess up.
1. SKV key that has been securing normal and free access to conq stations for a myriad of VO guilds and pilots (thus providing some order in the universe) has been compromised by yet unknown VOID perpetrator
2. VOID, once SKV friendly band of brigands has been compromised by a bunch of TGFT infiltrators (Sieger, Greenwall, kenny, etc.)
3. Conq stations are mostly in TGFT hands or TGFT infiltrators hands that enable TGFT to use them
4. Our ally ITAN (who is officially at war with TGFT) , as it seems, is actually working with TGFT
5. FAMY who were helping us keep the order by defending stations have pulled back and probably have no other choice but to side with ONE in this mess
The only ones that are consistent and haven't added anything to this mess are serco nationalists (ONE) and the ones really profiting from this mess are TGFT.
It seems that SKV has to return as 'forrest rangers' and clear this mess up.
har har har yarrr
It is funny Wally.
In the meantime AD-1/ and AD-2/ have been cleared out.
Blakq gave SKV owner key to Galanoth/Voidance/whatshisnamenow and he gave owner privileges to pleaseo and Piment.
Pleaseo and Piment were handing out SKV owner and user keys like there is no tomorrow asking people in return to not attack stations. From there on everything spread like the pyramid scheme - TGFT alts in VOID started giving out keys to their TGFT buddies and at the end everyone ended as owner and user.
So yes - the guilty party is VOID/Galanoth/Pleaseo/Piment.
In the meantime AD-1/ and AD-2/ have been cleared out.
Blakq gave SKV owner key to Galanoth/Voidance/whatshisnamenow and he gave owner privileges to pleaseo and Piment.
Pleaseo and Piment were handing out SKV owner and user keys like there is no tomorrow asking people in return to not attack stations. From there on everything spread like the pyramid scheme - TGFT alts in VOID started giving out keys to their TGFT buddies and at the end everyone ended as owner and user.
So yes - the guilty party is VOID/Galanoth/Pleaseo/Piment.
I was not aware of that Wash, thanks for the info.
actually what happened is Cron was attacking the station as we were attacking then he was attacking it after we had taken it so I, King CrazySpence of GTE gave him the Good times Everyone key!
to get him to stop undoing the efforts!
and it was easy to get the Itan folk to follow along with this effort because otherwise we were gettying dusted hard by the superior serco force present.
Remember this next time that corruption thread comes up, iw as very offended to not be the most corrupt person in VO, I'll sell out to anyone for an edge in battle time and time again!
to get him to stop undoing the efforts!
and it was easy to get the Itan folk to follow along with this effort because otherwise we were gettying dusted hard by the superior serco force present.
Remember this next time that corruption thread comes up, iw as very offended to not be the most corrupt person in VO, I'll sell out to anyone for an edge in battle time and time again!
I even told the Serco where an Itani trident was during the xmas holidays to try and get rewarded with less death at a time when I was severely outnumbered!
Well Bojan that's a funny deduction. Can I get a screenshot of wherever you are getting that info? Because I am sure I never handed out SKV owner keys.