I have to check but believe Misty paid me my winnings, since you killed our team leader BEFORE he got paid, a group decision was met, and Misty must have taken our claims of you attempting to keep Big N from getting his winnings seriously, and disqualified you.

If I were host I would have most likely done similar.

Anyone can host. We need more people hosting, not less. Host with her next time if you think there is corruption. Or contact TRI, I hear they are hosting next week. Get them to update the rules so you are no longer unclear as to when the event is over, and about killing ones teammates.

You are mistaken Nith. He was not Avataros' teammate once NW concluded. Group member? Yes. Teammate? No. I assume SoI's mandate to subvert Serco Nationalist operations went into immediate effect after NW concluded which is a legitimate RP reason for him to attack. It should have had absolutely NO bearing on whether or not he as paid for the NW victory.

Your honesty in admitting she paid you directly is appreciated, but just goes to highlight her further duplicitous behavior. Claiming Avataros was attempting to interrupt payment to BN is grappling in the dark for yet another false reason in support of your SKV ally. Payments are easyenough to make. Mistena could have easily paid one of the other ONE members and they could have given it to BN if he had homed somewhere far away (which he hadn't, btw).

This was a personal, unfair, and biased move by a NW host and she should be ashamed of herself for ruining the honor of such a longstanding pillar of the VO community.

NW concludes for the winning team when they are paid, now you know.

I am sorry you feel slighted, and that Misty was force to deal with tomfoolery while just trying to host a fun event for everyone. Hopefully your experience will make it so no other host or participant have to go through this again.

NW has historically concluded when the last member of opposition dies. If future hosts want to change that commonly understood rule, they are free to do so. Going back and changing the rules in hindsight so they align with the hosts surrpeticious scheming is reprehensible. Mistena should be ashamed of herself.

"Either way, Avataros killed BigNasty after NW had concluded. There is no disputing it."

Sure there is. Nation War is an event consisting of a last-team standing fight and the distribution of a prize to the survivors. The fight was over, but clearly the prize distribution was not, therefor the Nation War event was not over. This is sufficiently obvious that it has never needed to be spelled out until you came along and tried using it as an excuse to drag down Mistena.

And you wonder why people call you dishonest.

Mistena owes Avataros 2 mil, and is disqualified from hosting future NW events for her dishonest and duplicitous behavior.

This is so funny, Greenwall thinks he can tell me what to do.

Since when do you get to decide who hosts nationwar? I only see one unhappy participant and this has been the only issue aside from the usual grey or no grey disputes. Everyone else seems happy that I host, since I actually give out prize money, unlike VOID. However, Greenwall, if you wished to host and take the spot, disallowing me the position, go for it. Just don't expect a big turnout to your next nationwar.

This was a personal, unfair, and biased move by a NW host and she should be ashamed of herself for ruining the honor of such a longstanding pillar of the VO community.

I had no idea that your alt was Avataros, thus invalidating this point. If one of the leaders of the teams of NW requests me to not pay a member on their squad, I would humor them and see why. Killing the leader of the team after it ends is just bad manners, and one should have more respect for someone who takes the time out of their lives to organize this stuff, not just me but BigNasty as well, since he volunteered to command the Serco team. Greenwall.

As for the second part of your statement, If you mean yourself as the honorless pillar of the community, you got that right. If you mean me, I deny my position as a pillar of the community since I don't really do anything of benefit to the game. And I doubt that the rest of the community feels the same way you do. If so, those people would be members of the already discredited and ridiculed guild VOID.

-Prize is only distributed to those on the winning team who survive
-Have fun!

The first rule you violated by trying to hide the number of survivors before getting paid. Were you trying to up your own winnings?

The second you are violating right now.

@ rin

You are not relevant. Go eat some pizza.

@ Mistena

I don't plan on hosting NW, but I have in the past and I have always been honorable to the winners, even if they were not friendly to me in the game otherwise. Hosting NW has always meant you RISE ABOVE guild politics, personal biases, etc. Was it your choice to refuse payment to a valid winner? Certainly -- but it was a horrible, shameful choice that casts MAJOR shade upon you as a host that can be trusted. Now you can deal with the result of that decision.

You could have had a private discussion with me after I killed BigNasty, but you chose to simply (and publicly) deny payment of winnings -- a brash move that shows your inability to remain a neutral NW host.

Your actions show an unfortunate bias towards those whose tactics continue to degrade the quality of gameplay in VO. These include the perpetrating of restricting kills, unfounded and incessant cheating accusations, unprovoked outing of alts, and harrassment/attacks on the RL identities of players throughout the last couple years. The lowest of the low. The sad thing is I had always considered you above such things, until recently.

I also call bullshit on your claim you didn't know Avataros was my alt. Not only is it widely and publicly admitted to by me, but it's SKV 101. Lol. Dirty 'oRe even said publicy to "kill greenwall first" for christ sake.

If I wanted to exhibit bad manners, I would have (and easily could have) disrupted the actual NW event itself. Did I? No. And if I had, I certainly wouldn't have expected payment.

Has BigNasty personally dirsupted other hosted events in the game in the past? Of course he has. Do you hold that against him? Obviously not. I wonder WHY?

Did BigNasty really make a huge effort and time sacrifice to be the leader of the serco team? Of course not. Don't be ridiculous. All serco team members made the same sacrifice, including myself. That you would put so much weight on typing "/group invite" is really quite hilarious. No command occurred on his part, as nith proved by his video. BigNasty was just butthurt about being typekilled after NW had officially concluded and he cried about it to his SKV ally Mistena.

Lastly, I am not responsible for past actions of VOID nor am I aware of whatever situation you are insinuating happened by your words "I actually give out prize money, unlike VOID", but I am open to privately discussing past grievances if it resulted in tarnishing the neutrality of hosting NW.

@nith

Just stop, lol.

"NW has historically concluded when the last member of opposition dies. "
The last of the opposition was Sieger, who was still alive when you shot BN. Admittedly it was an odd NW.

BN was certainly giving orders throughout the entire battle, it was announced in groupchat that Serco would use Voice Coms but it may have been just prior to you arriving (you were one of the last to join I believe). Though I removed the sound, you can see my reaction to voice commands when I switch targets, especially evident when the whole Serco team converged on Misty.

Dirty may have joked about taking you out first. If BN had given that order, you would not have seen the end of the battle.

You may disagree with Misty's decision, but you are the one who forced her to make one, realize that.

Any leader who feels they are not responsible for the past actions of their guild, should have formed a new guild instead of taking control of one with a history.

Your opinions are delightfully incorrect !

Take your meds Wally. You're not fooling anyone.