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Moebius
VOID is very anti-globalist so that makes very little sense, even officially endorsed Donald J Trump the day he announced his run.
Clearly you have very little insight into world governments and international politics, if you did you would have figured out where [VOID] has been getting its playbook from.
Angela much better represents ANY of the "Commanders" of this twelve guild federation of inactive/alt/"nationalist" guilds that have been forced to work together out of the necessity to survive.
Just like in real life, anything she touched has crumbled under her leadership. She has ZERO influence in world affairs, and has defaulted to the role as a propaganda pushing war criminal trying to implode her very own nation based on mandates and agenda from the "leadership" of said federation.
ONE/SKV/FAMY/EDIT/DIE/CLM/SWA/FIP/MOO/RED are the same people.
Nothing is beyond our reach
Clearly you have very little insight into world governments and international politics, if you did you would have figured out where [VOID] has been getting its playbook from.
Angela much better represents ANY of the "Commanders" of this twelve guild federation of inactive/alt/"nationalist" guilds that have been forced to work together out of the necessity to survive.
Just like in real life, anything she touched has crumbled under her leadership. She has ZERO influence in world affairs, and has defaulted to the role as a propaganda pushing war criminal trying to implode her very own nation based on mandates and agenda from the "leadership" of said federation.
ONE/SKV/FAMY/EDIT/DIE/CLM/SWA/FIP/MOO/RED are the same people.
Nothing is beyond our reach
Clearly you have very little insight into Pup...
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Moe Lester
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Moe Lester
At least void is better than edit like rodena or (unknown) could fight edit better at least void pose a good threat -Antonio12
lmfao this blaqk trump supporter is in for a nasty surprise within next year.
Trump cannot help himself but to break laws because old habits die hard. He'll get impeached pronto as a result by an establishment Republican congress who would much rather to see Pence at the helm. He's not gonna finish his 4 year term. Sorry, kiddo. I know how much you look up to this corrupt, conspiracy-theories-loving bully.
Trump cannot help himself but to break laws because old habits die hard. He'll get impeached pronto as a result by an establishment Republican congress who would much rather to see Pence at the helm. He's not gonna finish his 4 year term. Sorry, kiddo. I know how much you look up to this corrupt, conspiracy-theories-loving bully.
All: This is a game and an escape for many. We're not going to debate RL politics here.
Whistler... This whole thread is about comparing RL politics to VO politics, so it's natural that debate will start. So if you don't want that happening, I am afraid you will have to delete this whole thread.
It might be possible to walk the fine line that existed for the first few posts. If it veers into RL vitriol then I will take it down.
Why are you being defiant and stubborn, sieger? Listen to whistler. He's the man around here.
Also, your argument makes no sense. It's Whistler's call, but in my viewpoint there's barely anything in the OP about politics. I'm assuming the joke is that VOID is mostly filled with a single german individual's alts, namely you.
Also, your argument makes no sense. It's Whistler's call, but in my viewpoint there's barely anything in the OP about politics. I'm assuming the joke is that VOID is mostly filled with a single german individual's alts, namely you.
"This whole thread is about comparing RL politics to VO politics"
well no, it was just about this:
https://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/14/27927?page=1
i blame Pup!
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Moebius
well no, it was just about this:
https://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/14/27927?page=1
i blame Pup!
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Moebius
Does Merkel go into a shop and say "I like this outfit, can I have it in 27 colours please"?
@Whistler
Out of curiosity, is off topic a suitable place for political debate?
Out of curiosity, is off topic a suitable place for political debate?
Failure, you have no idea how impeachment processes work.
That would take a majority in the house voting towards impeachment processes and to be ratified by the senate.
The only "republicans" against Donald J Trump are those who supported HRC behind the scenes and even in public such as the bush family, neoconservatives like Karl Rove, McCain, Bloomberg, and like other globalist operatives these people are the minority now.
I have turned the belief in my own fallibility into the cornerstone of an elaborate philosophy. On a personal level, I am a very critical person who looks for defects in myself as well as in others. But, being so critical, I am also quite forgiving. I couldn't recognize my mistakes if I couldn't forgive myself. To others, being wrong is a source of shame; to me, recognizing my mistakes is a source of pride.
First, there is no single sustainable model for national success(ONE/SKV). Second, the American model(VOID), which has indeed been successful, is not available to others, because our success depends greatly on our dominant position at the center of the universal capitalist system(Greyspace), and we are not willing to yield it.
Once we realize that imperfect understanding is the human condition, there is no shame in being wrong, only in failing to correct our mistakes.
[VOID] strategic planning was always based around the opposition of flow pertaining to current trends with markets, society, and policy.
That would take a majority in the house voting towards impeachment processes and to be ratified by the senate.
The only "republicans" against Donald J Trump are those who supported HRC behind the scenes and even in public such as the bush family, neoconservatives like Karl Rove, McCain, Bloomberg, and like other globalist operatives these people are the minority now.
I have turned the belief in my own fallibility into the cornerstone of an elaborate philosophy. On a personal level, I am a very critical person who looks for defects in myself as well as in others. But, being so critical, I am also quite forgiving. I couldn't recognize my mistakes if I couldn't forgive myself. To others, being wrong is a source of shame; to me, recognizing my mistakes is a source of pride.
First, there is no single sustainable model for national success(ONE/SKV). Second, the American model(VOID), which has indeed been successful, is not available to others, because our success depends greatly on our dominant position at the center of the universal capitalist system(Greyspace), and we are not willing to yield it.
Once we realize that imperfect understanding is the human condition, there is no shame in being wrong, only in failing to correct our mistakes.
[VOID] strategic planning was always based around the opposition of flow pertaining to current trends with markets, society, and policy.
The only "republicans" against Donald J Trump are those who supported HRC behind the scenes and even in public
You're vastly overestimating the support that Trump has from the Republican party in general. It's no secret that Paul Ryan doesn't like Trump, and is only tolerating him because Trump is promising that he'll respect Ryan's agendas. Throw in a few sour disagreements and disappointments, and Trump will lose Ryan quicker than you can say "uh oh." Did you honestly believe that old-time Republicans are going to like Trump after he incessantly insulted them for being "the corrupt establishment"?
Trump is wild, unpredictable, and impulsive. He's scary as hell to his party who wants stability and predictability. Mike Pence is the Republican establishment's yes-man dream who would happily go along with the traditional neoconservative agendas. Nobody is saying it directly yet, but just watch, given a chance, the Republican congress will enthausically gut Trump to put their favorite man Pence in control.
these people are the minority now.
You sure about that? HRC won the popularity vote by 1.5 million. That's way more than any other president in history. No, those are not the minority. Trump got lucky with the electoral college, that's all.
You're vastly overestimating the support that Trump has from the Republican party in general. It's no secret that Paul Ryan doesn't like Trump, and is only tolerating him because Trump is promising that he'll respect Ryan's agendas. Throw in a few sour disagreements and disappointments, and Trump will lose Ryan quicker than you can say "uh oh." Did you honestly believe that old-time Republicans are going to like Trump after he incessantly insulted them for being "the corrupt establishment"?
Trump is wild, unpredictable, and impulsive. He's scary as hell to his party who wants stability and predictability. Mike Pence is the Republican establishment's yes-man dream who would happily go along with the traditional neoconservative agendas. Nobody is saying it directly yet, but just watch, given a chance, the Republican congress will enthausically gut Trump to put their favorite man Pence in control.
these people are the minority now.
You sure about that? HRC won the popularity vote by 1.5 million. That's way more than any other president in history. No, those are not the minority. Trump got lucky with the electoral college, that's all.
You did not learn a single thing from the election results did you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Donald_Trump_presidential_campaign_endorsements,_2016
If HRC won the popular vote why was there such a massive spread between electoral votes?
Voter fraud.
It's the entire reason HRC did not the challenge the results, you have the current president advocating for voter fraud on live tv, 1.8 million deceased voters registered to vote this election. Dozens of reports of voting machines switching votes by the thousands forcing entire states to go back to paper ballot.
You are as consumed with self-interest as the media and establishment was(and still is), Donald J Trump is sober, stable, and consistent. "His" party is scared because they know the day of the lobbyist is coming to an end, the pay-for-politics that have been going on for the last few decades were just shutdown by American voters in a stunning upset. The man is not even president yet and he's already delivering on his word.(Ford, TPP, Wall, NATO, and many more)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUN6FsQFOkY
It's more difficult, you know, to bring about positive change than it is to make money. It's much easier to make money, because it's a much easier way to measure success, the bottom line. When it comes to social consequences, they've got all different people acting in different ways, very difficult to even have a proper criterion of success. So, it's a difficult task. Why not use an entrepreneurial, rather than a bureaucratic approach.
He is someone who genuinely cares about the state of the human condition and tries to better it. His myriad and monumental philanthropical efforts will qualify him as one of history's great benefactors. He is a hands-on workaholic who materially impacts the quality of lives of people less fortunate than he. Now this, this is a sign of greatness.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Donald_Trump_presidential_campaign_endorsements,_2016
If HRC won the popular vote why was there such a massive spread between electoral votes?
Voter fraud.
It's the entire reason HRC did not the challenge the results, you have the current president advocating for voter fraud on live tv, 1.8 million deceased voters registered to vote this election. Dozens of reports of voting machines switching votes by the thousands forcing entire states to go back to paper ballot.
You are as consumed with self-interest as the media and establishment was(and still is), Donald J Trump is sober, stable, and consistent. "His" party is scared because they know the day of the lobbyist is coming to an end, the pay-for-politics that have been going on for the last few decades were just shutdown by American voters in a stunning upset. The man is not even president yet and he's already delivering on his word.(Ford, TPP, Wall, NATO, and many more)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUN6FsQFOkY
It's more difficult, you know, to bring about positive change than it is to make money. It's much easier to make money, because it's a much easier way to measure success, the bottom line. When it comes to social consequences, they've got all different people acting in different ways, very difficult to even have a proper criterion of success. So, it's a difficult task. Why not use an entrepreneurial, rather than a bureaucratic approach.
He is someone who genuinely cares about the state of the human condition and tries to better it. His myriad and monumental philanthropical efforts will qualify him as one of history's great benefactors. He is a hands-on workaholic who materially impacts the quality of lives of people less fortunate than he. Now this, this is a sign of greatness.
This seems to be a very civilized debate with limited ad hominem, I'm hoping that this discussion will continue on it's rather pleasant path. I'm hoping that none of these will be removed =)
Blah blah blah... *insert conspiracy theories* blah blah blah... Verbal endorsements don't mean shit. Allegiances shift like wind. Politics is always like that. You side with what you think wins you votes. Besides, have you counted how many others in Republican party who haven't endorsed him?
Time will tell who's right. I wish USA the best, but I don't think extreme nationalism and running away from the rest of the world is the answer. Also, I don't think Trump will keep some of his promises to the full extent. Don't be surprised when you and others feel betrayed by him. In order to justify continuing supporting him, you'll be like "Oh, he had to do what he did to keep the peace with other Republicans." Yeah, so much for draining the swamp.
It's both hilarious and sad to see how Trump conned you and millions others into believing that he's a genuine person who cares for everyone. Why do you think he's still refusing to release his tax returns, hmm? If he doesn't have anything to hide, he should be elated to show the world how generous he's been to charities. Perhaps he doesn't want the world to see how he's in debt by several hundred million to a bank run by the Chinese government. That is a known fact, and imagine how many other juicy information we'll find from his tax returns.
Also, I'm sorry to say, lobbying ain't ending anytime soon.
Time will tell who's right. I wish USA the best, but I don't think extreme nationalism and running away from the rest of the world is the answer. Also, I don't think Trump will keep some of his promises to the full extent. Don't be surprised when you and others feel betrayed by him. In order to justify continuing supporting him, you'll be like "Oh, he had to do what he did to keep the peace with other Republicans." Yeah, so much for draining the swamp.
It's both hilarious and sad to see how Trump conned you and millions others into believing that he's a genuine person who cares for everyone. Why do you think he's still refusing to release his tax returns, hmm? If he doesn't have anything to hide, he should be elated to show the world how generous he's been to charities. Perhaps he doesn't want the world to see how he's in debt by several hundred million to a bank run by the Chinese government. That is a known fact, and imagine how many other juicy information we'll find from his tax returns.
Also, I'm sorry to say, lobbying ain't ending anytime soon.
If you cannot handle your ideas being challenged why did you come here to begin with? The only person providing source material here is I, you're just shooting from the hip at this point.
Nationalism isn't a dirty word in the US, you're making nothing but baseless claims here at this point.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/18/japan-confidence-trump-president-shinzo-abe
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/21/putin-says-trump-confirmed-willing-to-mend-ties.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/mexican-president-vows-talks-agenda-trump-170930792.html
Donald J Trump proved loyalty means far more than any amount of money, as you can see from the current cabinet picks decided so far.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-transition-team-denies-internal-chaos-mike-pence-purge-lobbyists-cabinet-contenders/
You are wrong on every aspect, backwards on every angle, Donald is the first president uniquely qualified to restructure the tax code in a long time, the man is brilliant when it comes to financial management.
This is why [VOID] and Donald J Trump went from underdogs, to the tip of the spear. You lack understanding and objective views on actual issues like national security, trade, and American sovereignty.
Nationalism isn't a dirty word in the US, you're making nothing but baseless claims here at this point.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/18/japan-confidence-trump-president-shinzo-abe
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/21/putin-says-trump-confirmed-willing-to-mend-ties.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/mexican-president-vows-talks-agenda-trump-170930792.html
Donald J Trump proved loyalty means far more than any amount of money, as you can see from the current cabinet picks decided so far.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-transition-team-denies-internal-chaos-mike-pence-purge-lobbyists-cabinet-contenders/
You are wrong on every aspect, backwards on every angle, Donald is the first president uniquely qualified to restructure the tax code in a long time, the man is brilliant when it comes to financial management.
This is why [VOID] and Donald J Trump went from underdogs, to the tip of the spear. You lack understanding and objective views on actual issues like national security, trade, and American sovereignty.
Whistler, plz don't delete this exchange, it is too funny to be lost, like tears in the rain.
I never said that nationalism is a dirty word. Nothing wrong with balanced patriotism and being proud of your own country. Notice how I attached the word "extreme" to the beginning of it?
I don't like having my ideas challenged? Hah, look at yourself. Like I said, we'll see who's right, what comes of Trump's actions and decisions. I think we can do better than Trump, but sorry to disappoint, I'm not shedding a single tear over him winning. Whatever, he'll be gone in 4 years, or less if he gets impeached. The chances are quite high that it will happen, all of the conditions are there.
You seem rather defensive and offended that somebody would think Trump is a con artist. Typical for white people without college education. Don't worry, as you get older, you'll get wiser too!
I don't like having my ideas challenged? Hah, look at yourself. Like I said, we'll see who's right, what comes of Trump's actions and decisions. I think we can do better than Trump, but sorry to disappoint, I'm not shedding a single tear over him winning. Whatever, he'll be gone in 4 years, or less if he gets impeached. The chances are quite high that it will happen, all of the conditions are there.
You seem rather defensive and offended that somebody would think Trump is a con artist. Typical for white people without college education. Don't worry, as you get older, you'll get wiser too!