i think the game should give you points for not shooting people.
a new stat. like 'non-kills'.

shaddup

I get a point for not deleting the thread!

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War is wrong, and shooting at people is wrong, but this is a GAME!

Plus, I've yet to see proof any of you are real people; for all I know you could be AI or really really smart hamsters. And since neither AI nor animals have rights, it's prefectly OK for me to shoot you; on the other hand, since I AM a person (at least, I'm 74.73% sure I'm a person) it's totally wrong for you creatures to shoot at me, even ingame. Of course, you can use the same argument of "Proof of humanity" against me, but that's okay because one this is a game and two I'm not about to submit proof of my humanity to a bunch of stranger AI/hamsters; who knows what you deranged entities may have in store for a human!

So, in conclusion, War is Good!

I'd go out and shoot anyone that measures 2 meters and has borg-like implants on their heads. Any time.

'xcept perhaps cute borgs but I've never seen one (at least, one wich didn't have a snap-on face).

But that's just me.

Was it "7 of 9" of the Borg on Star Trek?

Edit: Hey hey, I actually got the numbers right. I wonder what 9:9 looks like?
http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/VOY/character/1112406.html

I'm with ananzi. For every ship that comes within 3000m, and leaves unharmed, the player should recieve an "humanitas" point, and get better prices on medical crates everywhere.

This will also encourage newbies, drunkards (except for Leber. I hear he fights better when inebriated. Has anyone ever fought the man when he's sober?), and hopeless cases, such as me, as we will never come close enough to hitting anyting to actually pose a threat to them, and thus will be known as some of the most honourable and benevolent pilots in the galaxy.

Of course, with this kind of encouragement, we will never get better. But why improve your talent for killing people, when you can practice the skills of forgiveness and acceptance?

For the next patch we need an interface for this:

http://floydmueller.com/portfolio/hug_over_a_distance.htm

/me runs around giving everyone hugs.

That space hug could simply be a hail.

If you hail someone without attacking, then you get civilized point. Double-drop those points if you attack one wich you had just hailed.

So, with the new mission interface, we could probably have a huggy bear mission.

Wait WAIT WAIT!....If War was wrong and we couldn't kill anyone? What would be the purpose of this game? :O I would be stuck at all 00000 :( Well wait except for mining and trading BUT STILL! Mining and trading Helps WAR! for building ships LOL... Ahwell its Ananzi go figure :)

mining and trading is for war. how stupid of me not to realize! also, farmers exist solely to provide food for troops, schools exist solely to educate children to build weapons and hate the enemy, medicine exists solely to get soldiers back in the battle, church exists solely to make everyone feel OK about it.

god im such an idiot! i thought there might be some purpose to human existence other than beating the ever living shit out of each other.

You say that as if it were a BAD thing!

Ahhhh. No, Lecter, not the shadow of a doubt. Just reading your post makes me mouth water...

Legal submissions. In-court refutations. Legal fees. Substantial evidence, bail bonds, beneficial interests, bifurcate, limited liability, malum prohibitum, mesne profits, modus operandi, moral turpitude, multiplicity of suits, declaratory relief, direct or proximity cause, disjunctive allegations... Ohhhh.... MMMMM...

Oh, gods, Lecter is just human, if insane.

But I am PERVERTED. Gods, help me.

From Starship Tropers:

RASCZAK: Here in History and Moral Philosophy we've explored the decline of Democracy when social scientists brought the world to the brink of chaos, and how the veterans took control and imposed a stability that has lasted for generations since... You know these facts but have I taught you anything of value? You. Why are only citizens allowed to vote?

LANNY: It's a reward... what the Federation gives you for doing Federal Service.

RASCZAK: No. Something given has no value! Haven't I taught you dimwits anything? I guess they ought to revoke my teaching credential... When you vote, you're exercising political authority. You're using force. And force, my friends, is violence, the supreme authority from which all other authority derives.

CARL: Gee, we always thought you were the supreme authority, Mr. Rasczak.

RASCZAK: In my classroom, you bet. Whether it's exerted by ten or ten billion, political authority is violence by degree. The people we call citizens have earned the right to wield it.

DIZZY: My mother always says that violence never solves anything.

RASCZAK: Really? I wonder what the city fathers of Hiroshima would have to say about that. You.

CARMEN: They probably wouldn't say anything. Hiroshima was destroyed.

RASCZAK: Correct. Naked force has settled more issues in history than any other factor. The contrary opinion 'violence never solves anything' is wishful thinking at its worst. People who forget that always pay... They pay with their lives and their freedom.

RASCZAK: You. Tell me the moral difference, if any, between the citizen and the civilian?

JOHNNY: The difference lies in the field of civic virtue. A citizen accepts personal responsibility for the safety of the body politic, of which he is a member, defending it, if need be, with his life. The civilian does not.

RASCZAK: The exact words of the text. But do you understand it? Do you believe it?

JOHNNY: Uh, I don't know.

RASCZAK: Of course you don't. I doubt if any of you here would recognize 'civic virtue' if it bit you in the ass.

of course you know, once they create 'troll points' Ananzi and genka will have to start competing...

Teh books rocks. Teh movie... I really wanted to see Mobile Infantry how it's depicted in teh book, but the bugs chopping up humans by the bucketful was amusing.

Interestingly enough, that part of teh book makes it one of the most debated pieces of fiction out there, along with Stranger in a Strange Land (though the latter in an obviously different subject). Try as I might, I cannot really find a flaw in the argument, once you've thrown the concepts of "civility", "rights", "morality" and "ethic responsability" out the window as mere human-made concepts instead the universal forces some people purport them to be, particularly "rights", since the only way to have them is to use the threat of force and punishment to make people mind them.

I saw the movie first, but when I nabbed dad's ages-old copy of the book I was a little surprised he hadn't made me read the book first instead.

I liked the book better.

wow... that guy's voice in the "hug-over-a-distance" thing was really amazing.

I like how he says koala. It sounds cool.