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[Itan] Tracker - Now it exists! (And you can have it too!)

Aug 26, 2007 smittens link
No more download, no more tracking, thanks to Scuba Steve deciding to ruin it for the public.
Aug 26, 2007 FatStrat85 link
That's awesome. Can we have multiple databases for this?
Aug 26, 2007 smittens link
Talk to me ingame
Aug 26, 2007 roguelazer link
Yay! Another bit of possible ingame subtlety goes the way of the dodo, facilitating easy combat and removing the roleplaying notion of privacy.
Aug 26, 2007 smittens link
Somehow when I saw Rogue had the latest reply here, I had a feeling it wasn't very nice. You want RP? Fine.

http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/7/17449#219615

Now there is a perfectly acceptable RP background for the tracker.
Aug 26, 2007 tumblemonster link
How come Im always up to no good?

Just can't help myself I guess...
Aug 26, 2007 moldyman link
rogue: lua in general does that, besides modifying how your UI looks.

To have total "privacy" and "fairness" one would need to remove lua access.
Aug 27, 2007 smittens link
Okay, there are no updates. Scuba Steve decided that since he didn't like the idea of getting "tracked"*, he's going to ruin this for everyone. There will be no public tracker. Thanks Steve!

*Even though it's no different from typing "Scuba Steve was seen in Sedina B8" on 100
Aug 27, 2007 Scuba Steve 9.0 link
And now it's busted. Pirate's Toolkit has been updated with "Vanish".

I suppose Smittens will be removing this sooner, rather than later if IRC is any indication.
Aug 27, 2007 tumblemonster link
Wow Steve, you're a dick.
Aug 27, 2007 roguelazer link
Why? If you can break the system by introducing a tracker, then he can break it by breaking your tracker. :-)
Aug 27, 2007 slime73 link
Break the system? Deliverator-controlled bots had a similar tracker, IIRC.
Aug 27, 2007 tumblemonster link
It's not the ability Roguelazer, but the intention. Scuba broke it to be a jerk.
Aug 27, 2007 smittens link
No, no. He broke it for a legit reason. I don't mind if someone individually wants to figure out a way to keep their info private. Then I asked that he keep it to himself, and THEN his intentions became that of a jerk. Unfortunately, I don't have the exact quote, but I believe it was something like

"Okay, Smittens, either you pay me a buttload of credits, or I release this to the public" (only, he forced in many big words and somehow stretched that out into a multi-line sentence)
Aug 27, 2007 roguelazer link
Well, his reasons may be impure, but I'd say that if you feel the need to release a tracker to the public, it's only fair to release an anti-tracker to the public, too.
Aug 27, 2007 Scuba Steve 9.0 link
I have the IRC logs if anyone wants them.
Aug 29, 2007 greengeek link
Seems to me it'd have been more fun to see an arms race between tracking and anti-tracking technology. Like speed traps and radar detectors.

The problem of course is that at some point one side or the other would escalate it from "breaking" a tool in the game-context (reporting false information or otherwise impacting its accuracy) to trying to damage or crash the tool completely (Denial of Service, etc)
Aug 29, 2007 smittens link
It's not really an arms race. I haven't (and don't plan to) devote enough of my life to LUA-ing that I could beat Steve at this. The tracker is coming back soon for the general public in a very limited manner rather soon, though