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Furies self defense flag exploit

May 11, 2022 death456 link
This happened last night with a UIT person at The Dau B-10 wormhole. The offender attacked my furies and as they defend themselves when shot, shot the UIT aggressor back and killed him. I

The result was I got an aggression flag saying I attacked the UIT aggressor first, T-KOS and a Rep Hit.

I clearly did not shoot the UIT aggressor, or my furies did not aggress the UIT first. I should have been awarded a self-defense flag as my furies were a defender in the case.

I would like to request my T-KOS timer be removed in the light of this exploit being used against me. I will happily keep standings loss.

Pretty easily replicated party A has his ship + furies. Party B attacks party A's furies. Party A gets an aggression flag,T-KOS,rep hit when the Party B ship dies.

Whatever is decided I will respect the developer's choice in this matter. Thank You.
May 12, 2022 Sid123 link
Has happened to me too. It also occurs when Party B lightly rams Party A. This is not enough to register as an attack with the faction, but is registered as an attack by the furies, who strike back and lead to the exploit mentioned above. Solutions might be

To make ram damage or attacks on furies register as an attack with the faction (again easily exploitable depending on who the system thinks has initiated the ram)

To make the furie's agro the same as the factions reaction level of damage. So the furies only attack once the owner has been given permission to kill the aggressor without factional repurcussions.

Put a weapons-safe mode on the furies.

I know furies aren't high on the priority list but when they're being exploited...
May 13, 2022 death456 link
Yah I personally think changing the flag to say you're a defender if furies are shot. I clearly know not to shoot UIT in their own WH's Never shot the UIT myself. Furies were shot they defended back, and system said I was an aggressor.

I thought to bring the issue up again when it happened to me.
May 14, 2022 We all float link
Yah I personally think changing the flag to say you're a defender if furies are shot.

If the mechanic changes to this, that mechanic will be exploited instantly by all the usual suspects. Just a heads up.
May 15, 2022 Sid123 link
Yeah I think a weapons-safe mode would be much cleaner and less exploitable