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Faction penalty, self defense

Oct 03, 2004 andreas link
If somebody attacks me, I still lose gazillions of points with that faction if I defend myself. Thats just .... not useful. As a short term fix, one could drastically reduce the penalty to for example 100. Thats bad enough to discourage random attacks and it will still take care of the pirating problems, because repeat offenders will be KOS pretty soon. Also, we need a better way to regain standing. Killling 800 bots to regain dislike status is .... not useful.
Oct 04, 2004 thginkrej link
That penalty was extremely temporary. If you left the sector and returned, it would be normal. Has that been changed??

I don't think it was ever their intent to make you kill 800 bots to correct one slip of the weapons. The intent was to have an instant way to say to the offender "don't do that" in a way they won't soon forget.

Edit: Ooh, you didn't mean friendly fire... which we don't have. So say you're neutral and an Itani pilot attacks, you don't want to lose Itani standing, right? Hmm, if you're not in protected space and there are no defbots to come you your aid, your best bet is to run for the hills.

That is, until they do something like you suggest to remedy the situation. Maybe once you've been damaged a certain amount by someone, you take no faction penalty for defending yourself.. Sort of like the Top Gun cliche of US military policy..
Oct 04, 2004 octopusfluff link
I think that'd be the best way. If a pilot fires on you, or slams into you with a force beyond a certain threshold, you should be free to blow them up without repercussion.

Tho, determining 'who hit whom' would be pretty tricky.. I suppose comparing impact angles and velocities?
Oct 04, 2004 thginkrej link
Well I doubt ramming can be anything more than annoying when even a newbie bus can evade long enough to cry for help from others. If you want to kill (PvP) for certain, you have to use weapons.

The only thing would be if the attacker could launch enough munitions in one volley to destroy someone. A double-team with quad-gausses could destroy almost anything below a Rag..
Oct 04, 2004 andreas link
If I am Itani and I kill a NT pirate in NT space, I go to permanent kill-on-sight status with NT. Thats what I mean.