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Serious problem!

Dec 02, 2004 gamejunky link
As of right now i will not play Vendetta Online anymore. I was helping to escort an Itani convoy earlier tonight and was in Odia near the wormhole to jump into Jalik. I killed a serco by the name of Amarus and my Itani standing went from well over +900 down to -800. How is anyone supposed to find this game attractive if they cannot kill the enemy without losing all standings with there own government/faction? I did not pay 30 bucks for this game to be able to play and lose no matter what. Serco should not be alloud to have anymore than +200 standing with Itani faction and vise versa. Whats the points of having two or more factions when they can share all of the same features no matter what? I suggest you fix the problem and reset my Itani standings to well over 1000 for this mistake. As of now i will not reffer this game to any of my friends nor will i play it untill notified that the problem has been fixed. -- Jeremy "GameJunky" Manning
Dec 02, 2004 thginkrej link
Wow, if everyone who found a bug in VO acted this way, the game would be in big trouble.

Wonder if you realize how much you're over-reacting. Why not just ask for your standing to be repaired and continue trying to make the game better? Your rant does nothing but incite a flame war.

Have fun, moderators! =)
Dec 02, 2004 gamejunky link
I dont care what my post *does* as long as the problem gets fixed.
Dec 02, 2004 thginkrej link
Well I see this as mostly whining, after reading the first sentence. And that's just hard to get past. Threatening (or promising, in your case) to leave is not the best way to get something fixed.. Or to encourage constructive discussion to find the problem. And you should care whether you're starting a flame war, if you've read this:

http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard?agree=y

But whatever. By the way, did you find out exactly what Itani standing this person had? Was it >= +200? That does seem absurd, but so would artificial faction standing caps. It should be extremely hard for Serco to get high Itani standing, but not impossible - something like defecting to the other side. It should be nearly impossible to maintain good standing on both sides.

If their faction standing was so high, why did you defend the convoy from them? It seems to me that a Serco with high Itani standing would leave the convoy alone to avoid lowering their hard-won Itani standing.
Dec 02, 2004 CrippledPidgeon link
Amarus has been leaving the Itani convoy alone because he doesn't want to lose his hard won Itani standing.

Amarus tells me that you didn't kill him just once, but twice. If a person has admired status, you do get a warning that you will lose lots of standing for attacking that person.
Dec 02, 2004 Spider link
As far as I am concerned this is more an issue with the green/red dot on the radar. Loved/admired people are supposed to show as a green dot, not a red one.

And from what I recall, I think Amarus has a standing thats up in the 900'es with itani, and has sadly left us on convoy fighting due to this, so he'll have a somewhat even chance at fighting the valks.

This means that if you kill him, repeatedly. You've been assaulting loved players in nation space.

-AND- ignored the Big Warning about him being protected.
Dec 02, 2004 Viper2560 link
what spider says is true. and thginkrej was right dude ur over reacting. Im sure that VO doesnt want u to leave but lets face it, one person leaving isnt going to make the game go bankrupt. Everyone knows that the standings has a slight problem but dude dont whine about it. Just tell the devs wuts wrong and hope for an answer and for it to get changed soon.
Dec 02, 2004 Bobsin link
-800 huh? wow that sounds like you've been kicked out of Itani space. it also sounds like a good time to take a new directin with your character. build up some uit and corvus standing and become a pirate then reap your revenge on the itani nation! :) that is what i would do if i made that mistake anyway.

gamejunky? as in captain gamejunky? if so then no big loss if you leave... one less missle spammer to be concerned about. :)

Sebastian, Soldier of Serco

ps. after the comment i just made you should be dying to get back in game and take some revenge on me too. try not to let this get to you man, vendetta is a great game despite it's issues and there will come a day when those issues are gone. tough it out, see you in game.
Dec 02, 2004 NoAddedSugar link
If their faction standing was so high, why did you defend the convoy from them? It seems to me that a Serco with high Itani standing would leave the convoy alone to avoid lowering their hard-won Itani standing.

thats the truth. If you shoot everyone in monitored space (even twice it seems!), without learning from the first time you get punished, you earn a drastically faction hit. There _are_ traders/explorers/diplomats. Some players go for tradelevel 20, some for most PvP kills, and some players try to reach love standings to every faction. That is a honorable goal. Do not blame this people for your fault.
Dec 02, 2004 yodaofborg link
FM!

See your comment in this thread http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/1/7739

This one too?
Dec 02, 2004 Forum Moderator link
Funny you should ask, Yoda! I was just mulling that over as I read the rest of the forums.

Yes, there does seem to be quite a bit of controversey regarding the way factions work, though in this case it looks like the faction system was working as it was supposed to. I'm unsure if Amarus would show as a green dot to Itani or not. Seems like he should.

I think it's clear that not everyone finds the faction system to be satisfactory. The devs are aware of this and I leave it to them to discuss and /or tweak.

I think those that posted here have covered the topic well (except for Genka who got his flame deleted).

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