Why not?

SVG improvements outclassed IBG by a very big margin.

I propose IBG drain to be reduced from 60 to 55.

It still won't be able to chase or catch a fleeing SVG but will, at least, be used more then it is now.

Also, from the backstory point of view... the situation we have now is a complete nonsense.
Serco SVG and UIT UDV are considered light fighters and are faster with less drain, better armor, better thrust, better turbo thrust, better spin torque then IBG which is the lightest light fighter there is and should, in reality, outclass them both.

The IBG does outclass them both. It's just not as good at running around like a ninny, but in an actual fight? Pffft.

What you are neglecting is nimbleness.

-1

The SVG can keep up with the IBG in a fight, and carry much heavier guns doing it. Also it's got more armor and a smaller hit profile.

Then you add in the fact that it's faster than a Valk in a chase...

That reminds me, I need to go get some Serco standing and buy a few hundred of them.

"The IBG does outclass them both. It's just not as good at running around like a ninny, but in an actual fight? Pffft."

Rin, it's debatable. IBG is nimble only with the very light weapons and as ARF pointed out SVG can move better with the heavier guns, got more armor and definitely has smaller hit profile - which is nonsense.

I know, we bitched a lot about the 'death pencil' long time ago and devs made centurion hit profile bigger.

At the end, I am not asking for more armor, thrust, spin torque or smaller hit profile - just to merely reduce drain so IBG can do some chasing too.

lets make the itani ships even more powerful and awesome so that everyone joins over to itani and there are no more serco ever playing! let the itanians choose if they wanna chase with a valk or with an IBG! great idea!!!

lol. -1

Reduce the turbo drain equally for IBG, WTD, and SCP.

@MrAbsurd

how would a small reduction of power drain make iBG more awesome the SVG?

SVG is the fastest ship in game and can outrun every other ship in vo. It has better top speed, armor, thrust, turbo thrust and spin torque.
If you decide to flee, no IBG will catch you, ever.

you are comparing the IBG to the SVG, without comparing the valk to the prom. The SVG is the only answer the serco have to the valk. The itani do not need a better fighter. They have two of the best fighters in the game, one of which, IS the best fighter in the game. I say make the valk turbo drain 60, max turbo speed 220, and then make the IBG as fast as the SVG. Don't cry about one fighter, when you have exclusive access to the best fighter in the game.

Nobody is crying Roda, this is a mere suggestion
If people don't like it, it will fail and be forgotten, simple as that.

We had a fair share of nerfs and buffs on all nation specific ships over the years - whoever whined more at certain point in time got his candy.

This is really not a very significant or game breaking suggestion, if you don't like it just give your -1 and forget about it.

"Rin, it's debatable."

If it was clearly superior, it would need to be nerfed, and if it was clearly inferior, it would need to be buffed. But if it's "debatable", then it's just right. :P

Touche Rin.

Let's haggle, 57 drain?

i wasnt comparing the svg to the ibg bojansplash. and even then the ibg is still a smaller target and much lighter/more agile in combat.

but that isnt my point. i'm saying that there is no reason the itani need another runner. you have the valk which is a kickass combat ship AND an awesome runner. the valk will also beat a SCP most of the time. the specifics are balanced the way they are. (except for those of the UIT ofc. lol)

not wanting to be personal. but what the game really needs is LESS reason for vets to be itanis. notice how there are only itani vets around right now and maybe a handful UIT vets who are either good at PvP to stand their ground or just cant be arsed to make an itani alt after all the time? of course there are a few Serco vets from time to time. but its just not comparable to the highly active itani... thats whats at imbalance imo.

@MrAbsurd

Perhaps your argument deserves a suggestion thread of it's own.

Just the other day my friend Ghost told me "you're getting old and your reflexes are getting slower, maybe it's time to switch to flying proms."

I mean, let's face it - average pilot in a SCP with the most popular weapons load out will beat most of average/good valk pilots.
Exceptionally good SCP pilot will usually beat 2 average/good valk pilots without breaking a sweat.
Try fighting Uncle Dave, Kixkizzle, Matriarch or Erebus SCP with a valk and you will know what I'm talking about here.

SCP is a tank, it can take a beating and still win. Players that want to have it easy have a pretty straightforward choice - create Serco char.

With the recent buffs, SVG has pretty much become the best light fighter in VO so, if you feel 'dirty' using a tank and you are a good pilot, you can use SVG and again win against a valk or IBG.

In smaller part ships play some role in choosing a side and most vets do feel dirty using SCPs and are inclined to go for light fighters.
The 2nd issue, as I see it, is the serco vets painting not so nice picture about their side.
However, again in my opinion, the important part is the ability to provide guidance and organization for the new players that start as serco.

Throughout VO history we went through various cycles when one or the other side were the underdogs.
When I started playing (really long time ago) serco had the upper hand and itani were just cannon fodder.
Things changed over time due to Itani organizing better (ITAN & SKV guilds) and then serco became the underdogs. The tide switched again (as I am told since I was away) when RED was created and serco again had the upper hand.
After some time and RED going inactive, the tide switched again.

Now, the main problem for this continuous cycles of serco/itani supremacy is, again in my opinion, player retention through new content and game expansion. Vets get bored and stop playing.
A perfect example - I got bored in 2009 and stopped playing for 6 years and returned a few months ago.

Devs can only do so much with the limited resources they have and if they manage to make some breakthrough in the near future, things will start changing for the better fast.

Now back to my puny insignificant suggestion.
Let's haggle, 57 drain for IBG?

-1 The Itani already have the overpowered x1. We should be talking about nerfing the x1 so more players would want to be serco or uit not giving the itani another overpowered ship.

If you are in a valk and you are losing consistently against SVGs, the problem is not the ship you are flying, it's your piloting skills.

The suggestion is not about a better valk greenwall, it's about a better IBG.

/me facepalms

Greenwald, this is a -----> suggestion, not a place to vent your meth fried brain frustrations about your inability to fly anything but swarmrags and UDV with swarms.

If you have a valid argument why IBG should not have a small drain reduction, feel free to contribute to this suggestion with your opinion or just give it -1 like you already did previously.

@kenny
not the sharpest tool in the shed so I will give you some pointers:
1. IBG is available at +600 Itani standing, UIT can buy them too, same as SVG.
2. IBG is inferior to SVG in every way but the nimbleness and the biggest disadvantage - IT HAS A BIGGER HIT PROFILE THEN SVG
3. Proposed drain reduction does not affect/improve any IBG combat abilities, it just gives it a chance to chase for a few sec longer then it can now.

Perhaps it would help if I showed what I was responding to:

With the recent buffs, SVG has pretty much become the best light fighter in VO so, if you feel 'dirty' using a tank and you are a good pilot, you can use SVG and again win against a valk or IBG.

-Bojansplash

@Greenwall

This was a general statement with the emphasis on 'good pilot' & 'you can'.

Your comment did not contain any argument about pro/contra IBG drain reduction and the sentence you allegedly replied to was just a part of my argumentation why IBG deserves a small power drain reduction taken out of context.

Again, if you want to vent your butthurt, use RP forum.