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Remove access to +shoot# from Lua.

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Jul 28, 2015 genka link
This is true! I don't know what I was thinking
Jul 28, 2015 Savet link
My apologies Yoda. I stand corrected.
Jul 28, 2015 Roda Slane link
have you looked at the code for dullbot?
if you removed all lua access to +shoot#, and strafe, etc... would dullbot stop working in any way, or suffer any limitation it doesn't already suffer?

The only thing limiting lua will do, is move the code from lua, to some external language (which might still be lua, just external to vo).

I do not like limiting capabilities to the technically elite.
Jul 28, 2015 yodaofborg link
Oh no, dullbot has been re-written many times. I meant the original one that took screenies and headed towards the nav points.

It is shit now. so yeah.

[quote: Roda Slane]
Please do not implement half assed fixes, like disallowing 'a' to be bound to the jet command, and then allowing lua to jet stuff. i should not have to load a plugin to jet stuff, when a penny in the keyboard worked fine.


Best line in entire thread.

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Also, if some people are the type of person that they are prepared to sit down and write scripts and stuff to redirect whatever shit you want to /udev/input0 or whatever, then you are going to do it without Lua. The fact people can kind of keeps kicking up a stink on the forums from time to time, also it does make the game look a little bad to newbs. Not everyone who tries VO are going to be technically inclined enough to even unzip an archive. And I think a lot of people forget that.

Nuff said
Jul 28, 2015 greenwall link
@yoda

"I think 1 person using 4 clients to attack something IS a problem"

I agree, Yoda, if those clients are running on the same machine. Multiple clients running on single devices is simply something you can't avoid.

Honestly I've been fine with people running multiple clients to do DIFFERENT things, such as IRC bots, spy bots, stores, casinos, etc. But when someone uses multiple accounts to engage in pvp combat simultaneously it does bother me, since it presents a HUGE advantage over a single-client user.

Westacular has employed such usage, using up to four accounts at a time, for probably at least a year, if not more. In fact, he may very well have been the pioneer of the tactic in this game, at least in regards to small-ship pvp. The only true answer to such tactics (actual human involvement and skill being equal) is to employ them oneself. This would naturally explain TGFT's alleged recent attempt at using the same tactic, given that Westacular has more or less single-handedly held the stations for SKV in this manner for months.

I did ask the devs is specifically they have any opposition to people running multiple clients on the same device (and alt-tabbing between instances), and they said they don't.
Jul 28, 2015 tarenty link
+1 to OP, both suggestions.

No gameplay problems? I think 1 person using 4 clients to attack something IS a problem, and just as bad as tarrenty and his supposed dodge assist. That's just my opinion of course.

lol
Jul 28, 2015 yodaofborg link
I did say supposed. I never believed it, but lots of guilds I am in whined about you at the time.

meh

Jul 28, 2015 CrazySpence link
the key to killing Nahin is to swarm him in the face when he is expecting an energy duel

and then Trinity style go "Dodge this"
Jul 29, 2015 Ore link
"Interesting, in contrast to you all I actually agree with Yoda's suggestion. I think it would level the field somewhat between heavy plug-in users and everyone else."

Why do you want a level playing field all of a sudden Niki? Did you trip over my plasma Anni and bonk your head?
Jul 30, 2015 Niki link
Oh, do you want to call me a hacker again only because I am slightly more experienced at flying internet space ships than you?
Jul 30, 2015 Ore link
I thought we were talking about LUA? You hack bro?
Jul 31, 2015 abortretryfail link
I write a lot more plugins than Niki does. He still kicks my ass at flying internet space ships.
Jul 31, 2015 Niki link
I have written a total amount of 0 (zero) plugins, however I have had draugath write me a toggle-able plugin that removes all chat lines containing "gf"!
Jul 31, 2015 DeathSpores link
+1 to remove niki from +shoot
Jul 31, 2015 Dr. Lecter link
Did this just become DeathSpores' Thread For Nerfing Shap...er, Nikki?
Aug 01, 2015 Ore link
Newsflash. You don't need to write LUA to use your buddy's code.
Aug 02, 2015 yodaofborg link
It's Lua...

Not LUA. http://www.lua.org/
Aug 02, 2015 joylessjoker link
You can weed out the pretenders from real programmers by the way they spell Lua.