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Increase the number of kills before 24hr temp KOS.

Aug 12, 2015 yodaofborg link
2 is a bit low, especially because it counts any kills of players above -599 in monitored space, not just in the NFZ or above a certain faction level. People in game keep telling me it's 3 kills, and only for NFZ violations but that is wrong and that might not be so bad if it were true.

Either increase it to the 3 kills that people claim it to be, or make it so it's not just none hated, but respected. IE killing 2 players with +201 triggers it, but below that the faction doesn't care.
Aug 12, 2015 Pizzasgood link
It's definitely not an NFZ-only thing, nor was it announced as being an NFZ-only thing. Whoever is telling you that is an idiot.

As for the number of kills, it is supposed to be three, and I think it was when I tested it (months ago). But note that it's a week-long count, and it applies to all of that faction's space. So if you killed one guy six days ago that you forgot about, you'll come out with two instead of three.

There is an exception to this if you're fighting somebody who initiated hostilities though -- within that 15 minute window, killing them won't count toward your weekly total. (For chronology's sake, that ability was added a couple updates later.)
Aug 12, 2015 yodaofborg link
Hmm my char only has 2 kills, and yet 24h kos kicked in. Maybe it's just bugged like a lot of stuff after the move.

Yea, knew the NFZ thing was BS, a week long tho?

Worse than I thought.

Oooh just thought of a great old exploit tho! Yummy
Aug 12, 2015 csgno1 link
Instead of a strict number of kills it could be the sum of faction standing points of your victims...

Victim's standing + 599 (to account for below zero standing) and when you reach 1500 (or whatever) you're tKOS.
Aug 12, 2015 SkinWalker link
I get these all the time and I think the status quo is okay. It's actually 3 kills then the temp-kos. But nfz is irrelevant.

I just try to get creative and find other ways to hunt in Nation Space if I've already had two freebies... then if i get the 3rd, I take my lumps. It shouldn't be too easy to pirate in nation space.
Aug 13, 2015 Pizzasgood link
I don't mind it with respect to the nations and the UIT subfactions; those should be harsh. I do think the one-week window is too large for the grey subfactions, though. For those, it should be changed to only consider kills within the last 12 hours. Because greyspace.
Aug 17, 2015 Roda Slane link
-1

no sympathy for people that kill non hated people in faction space. stop exploiting the faction system and just be kos, so you can kill as often as you like, and others can kill you, without any standing loss, like it should be. exploiter.
Aug 18, 2015 yodaofborg link
This is in Grey Roda, not in nation space. But yeah, if it is 3 kills, but spread over a week. That's cool. It still doesn't explain how 1 of my chars that only had 2 total player kills was set Tung temp KOS. Stange stuff happens I guess.
Aug 18, 2015 The_Catman link
Does killing POS players affect this?
Aug 18, 2015 Dr. Lecter link
no sympathy for people that kill non hated people in faction space. stop exploiting the faction system

In that case, we may as well make the faction system binary: hated or not. One of the benefits/liabilities to being higher/lower in faction standing is the consequences for killing you, even in faction space.
Aug 18, 2015 abortretryfail link
Dr. Lecter - It doesn't matter how hard a Serco or Itani works at it, they can never be above +600 with UIT and there's no penalty for killing them there anymore.
Aug 18, 2015 Savet link
Actually, if I kill 3 +200 people, I get long-temp kos. If I kill 3 -200 people, I'm pretty sure I get the same long-temp kos.
Aug 19, 2015 yodaofborg link
Yeah, its none hated people. Killing 3 people at -599 still triggers 24h temp KOS, maybe a new suggestion would be to raise this to at least respected.