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F1 Help Behavior - Very Low Prioirty

Nov 24, 2015 thelazydj link
I wanted to see what the key was to hide the HUD, so I checked the F1 help dialog box and found some weird behavior, and the toggle HUD key is not listed there.

F1 only toggles the box to display, it will not close it, but pressing Esc will, even though it's not mentioned.

The Close button also did nothing for me, I could only get it to close by hitting Esc.

Suggestion, F1 should toggle the box off and on, hitting Esc to close is fine but not optimal. If it is the only option then is should be listed.
The close button needs to be fixed.

This was in on a Windows 10 pro laptop with a AMD APU in windowed mode using the DirectX 9 driver. (I have to use a legacy driver to get me dock to function and the 11 driver crashes every 20 min on that so I switched back to the 9 driver as a workaround.)
I understand that is a pretty odd case scenario so I will do some testing on other systems to see if the behavior is consistent along the Windows/PC environment.

Nov 24, 2015 incarnate link
Yeah, I suspect this is a case of Ray basically re-using the same interface in multiple situations.

In some cases, it might pop up and you can actually click on Close (touch UI?). In others, there's no mouse to click on Close anyway. And/or it might be stuck behind the HUD and inaccessible. But thanks, it is something we should check into.

On the subject of your AMD driver crashing in DX11, we would really appreciate reports of this kind of thing, on Bugs. Exactly what driver version, exactly how it's crashing, if it still crashes without any plugins, can you submit a config.ini/wgaf.cfg via a Support Ticket, etc.

If there's a real problem with a commonplace CPU-GPU (APU), or driver, then it's better if we know about it and can try to work around the issue, rather than having a bunch of people be angry at us and write bad reviews or whatever (usually, for something that isn't actually our fault.. all the more reason for us to be proactive). I use an AMD CPU and GPU at home, and have no problem on long play-times, but there's a good chance I'm not using the same driver as you, and definitely not the same chip.

We can also report bugs directly to AMD (we work closely with them), so if you're finding a legit driver bug, we can get that fixed for future versions, on AMD's side.
Nov 24, 2015 thelazydj link
Ok I'll do some testing with current drivers and submit those to you if there are DX11 crashes.

I know it's a good thing to take care of, but since I do have the dumb dock issue that causes me to use an outdated video driver I treat it as a pretty edge case scenario.
Nov 24, 2015 incarnate link
So, you're using an outdated driver on Windows 10? How old is it?
Nov 24, 2015 thelazydj link
I was using AMD version 14.201.1003.1002 released 10/30/2014

But looking at the Lenovo website they just released a new driver (15.200.1060.0) for windows 10 2 days ago, hopefully with the additional crap for the dock, I'm going to give it a shot.

Current from AMD website is 15.30.1025 for reference, I can use the stock AMD driver, but then spotty OneLink Dock compatibility
Nov 24, 2015 thelazydj link
As far as the OP goes, tested behavior of the help dialog on my desktop, same behavior across all Windows/PC scenarios I could test. Sorry I'm too broke to be on the green team and run Intel stuff... must be nice

DX11, DX9, Open GL video drivers, windowed and fullscreen, multiple resolutions. (Except DX11 fullscreen, I can't get that to work either.)

Center HUD elements are definitely overlapping the dialog box, also the "F1 for help" text if it is being displayed.

Windows 10 Pro 64bit
AMD FX-6300
8 GB RAM
R9-280
Nov 27, 2015 Kierky link
Happens on OSX too, all versions, and both drivers.