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Turn the queen drop rates back up!

Aug 18, 2016 SR_7136_HELLCAT link
Queening used to be fairly worth it,But lately i've not encountered a single drop,And i've spent a fortune on ships and weapons,And i've not even made my money back!

Turn the drop rates back up!
Aug 18, 2016 Tripod war of the worlds link
Yeah smaug has killed 5 queens a day and hasn't received a drop for the past week did u nerf?

+1
Aug 18, 2016 yodaofborg link
If the rates go back up, prices will drop and queen cores will become pretty worthless again. Do consider this!

-1
Aug 18, 2016 Jest link
I agree with Yoda on this one, sorry kitty :P

-1
Aug 18, 2016 Sieger link
I have been destroying many Hive Queens lately and received a decent amount of drops.

So -1.

Let's not make everything worthless and easy to achieve...
Aug 18, 2016 SR_7136_HELLCAT link
...I'll tell you when i kill another 10 without a single drop
Aug 18, 2016 greenwall link
It can be frustrating but I've been through spells of 20+ queens with no drops. It's normal...
Aug 18, 2016 Pizzasgood link
-1. Just kill more queens.

"And i've spent a fortune on ships and weapons"

Then you're doing it wrong. Killing queens shouldn't cost much of anything, just some reloads and fresh paint. Selling the scrap and ore should cover that entirely, if you're some sort of pauper who needs to worry about such things.
Aug 18, 2016 Space Pancakes link
Just wait for someone to go by hauling queen drops and vent them. It ups the drop chance to around 100%
Aug 18, 2016 abortretryfail link
You've just had bad luck. Keep rolling.
Aug 19, 2016 Xeha link
Im surprised about the downvotes. Funnily it seems to be the people who were longer around and could stockpile. Wouldnt it just be fair if it would be even?
Aug 19, 2016 draugath link
Nothing has changed. It's just been a string of bad luck with the random number generator. Any change to make the items drop more frequently than they already do would in the long run only imbalance things.
Aug 19, 2016 Sieger link
I've been telling him that for ages but he won't believe it!
Aug 19, 2016 incarnate link
I thought people would just eventually believe all the vets, but I guess not.

THE DROP RATE NEVER CHANGED. SOMETIMES YOU HAVE BAD LUCK.
Aug 19, 2016 Hoban-Wash-Washburne link
Sadly the eleetist attitude prevents people from believing them
Aug 19, 2016 Dr. Lecter link
Just wait for someone to go by hauling queen drops and vent them. It ups the drop chance to around 100%

TITCR
Aug 19, 2016 Pizzasgood link
Nah, Hoban. The problem is just that most people don't have an intuitive grasp of how random numbers work. They hear something like "one in ten" or 10% chance, and they correctly assume that they should average one drop for every ten kills over the long run, but they fail to realize just how much short-term variability there can be. As a result, they say stupid things like, "There's no way I could kill eight queens and not get a drop! Either something's wrong or the devs changed the drop rate, because this should never happen!"

But in reality, if the chance of dropping is 10%, there's a 34.7% chance of killing ten bots with no drops and a 12.1% chance of killing twenty bots with no drops. That's because a 10% chance of success means a 90% chance of failure, and that applies every single time. It doesn't matter whether you've failed a hundred times in a row already; although it's very unlikely to be in that situation in the first place, being in that situation has no impact at all on how likely your next attempt will be. You're still going to have a 90% chance of failure.

I don't know what the actual chances are on queen drops; I'm only using 10% as an example (which should correspond to Arklans dropping Avalons). Things like hive posis, cores, and such probably have lower individual numbers than that, but there's probably a combined chance of getting at least one of any of those that's near 10%, give or take a few percent. That's how it has seemed to me, anyway. You could get more accurate numbers by killing a few thousand queens and tracking how much stuff you get.
Aug 20, 2016 Luxen link
The last 3 queens I killed all had Posi drops, and one a bit ago dropped a queen gat. course, its also been a while since ive pulled the panties on a queen, but ill say ive got pretty good luck so far.