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Increase death counter of PK-reset players.

Aug 20, 2016 Sieger link
Hello. I've written this to the developers in an E-mail before, but I think it was either looked over or sent to the wrong E-mail by me. So I'll post this as a public suggestion.

I think many remember the silly PK-farming incident. I went a bit too far with trolling there, actually aiming it at one player who has been secretly doing it over months for whatever reasons. Well, let's not warm it up: As a result, Estrian and I had our PK counts aswell as our death counts reset.

I somehow feel unfair with this. It's just impossible for anyone else to get better k/d than us again, besides the fact that Estrian and I already had a fair bunch of bot kills, making it even more impossible to ever reach up to us again. My trolling back then was supposed to be a mere joke and I never expected anyone to care about it at all, maybe besides one or two hotheads who get angry at everything, whom this action was aimed at.

Let's make it short: I suggest that the death counter of every PK reset player gets boosted by 400 deaths. It seems like a fair number to me, since that is about the number I roughly exploded to bots on my char.

+1s are welcome. Especially one from Estrian would be nice. I'm sure it has annoyed him aswell.

I also ask you gentlemen to not turn this into a drama thread. I suggest this to be fair towards the community and erase an unfair side-effect I never expected and that really just feels boring.
Aug 20, 2016 ClarenceC link
that is surprisingly fair. takes a man to request that.

+1
Aug 20, 2016 bojansplash link
Raging John was very generous towards you in administering his punishment for your transgression.
Be very happy about it and do not yank his chain about everything being your 'silly joke'.
I would advise you to delete this thread.
Aug 20, 2016 morgan link
+1
Aug 20, 2016 genka link
I have very recently decided to try and be a little nicer and tone down my hate a little here and there. Obviously, this thread brings up a pain point for me, so I want to make sure I say that I'm not posting this to make you angry, Sieger, or to embarrass you. I get pretty emotional about this game, and this is a topic I would really like to share my feelings about, hopefully without being too dramatic.

This would be a waste of everyone's time. Your stats have already been irrevocably altered by your actions. Changing handfuls of pointless numbers here and there will not "erase an unfair side effect," and it is in no way "fair to the community." All it would do is give you a reason to say that your stats are as "fair" as anyone else's, which simply cannot be true ever again.

If you actually want to move forward with a clean slate, there is already an ingame mechanic to achieve that.
Aug 20, 2016 joylessjoker link
-1

What's the point?

All you're saying: "oh but it was just a joke, it was all aimed at an individual, therefore I should be able to increase my death count to 400."

All I see is an inflated sense of self-entitlement. None of this changes the fact that you cheated.

Aug 20, 2016 Jest link
+1
Aug 20, 2016 Luxen link
It sounds to me that Seiger feels a little bad about what he did, and others aren't respecting that >.>
Myself? Seiger++, though honestly I feel changing your death amount isn't really necessary. If you REALLY want those deaths put back, just hop in an EC and aggravate some bots, but your a plenty good enough pilot to not warrant such.
Aug 20, 2016 We all float link
I hear that Estrian didn't have his PKs reset for the reason you stated. Got any proof to back that up? Didn't think so.

-1 's all around
Aug 20, 2016 Niki link
If you feel so bad about yourself, do as Genka suggested. If you can't bring yourself to do that, at least request a complete character reset instead of deliberately making your stats arguably more special than they already are now.
Your suggestion would just enable you to go on annoying history lessons on public chat how you were so brave to expose Estrian's doing* and ask for a selfless punishment parading around with your artificially inflated death count.

Just leave it as it is or delete your character if you care so much about it.

*Not verified. Who cares?
Aug 20, 2016 look... no hands link
Perhaps I am missing something, so I will ask.

Seiger, did you use a script to keep launching ec's? If so, why not modify it to launch them and /explode 400 times? You do not need the assistance of the developers to do this. While my lua skills are rather bad, I can give you the logic flow here.

1) check death count, if less then starting point + 400 continue, if else, end

2) check if docked, if so continue, if else, step 4

3) purchase ec89 and free battery

4) launch ship

5) /explode, wait 15 seconds, go to step 1

6) end
Aug 20, 2016 joylessjoker link
@ look... no hands

He just wants to make a public display of his nobleness, awesomeness, and superior morality. Just to give his worshippers (ClarenceC, Jest, Luxen, etc) an extra reason to kiss his feet. Also he relishes watching the rest of us being annoyed. He's got some deep issues that he should confer with a professional about.
Aug 20, 2016 XeraX link
lol of course EP inflated the PKs. theres a public statement from incarnate on it... his bad hair day joke was legendary.

on topic:

i agree with the idea. sieger is being fair here. assuming he will brag about it is stupid. he even said here that it worked but generally was a bad idea.
i also agree that a death boost is a good way to make the k/d catchable. especially the no lifer steam people would be pissed if there are artificial k/ds.

the /explode idea is ok but that way only siegers moral issues would be addressed. like EP or any of the other (apprently there were more than 2?) would do it then.

if its done, all should do it. it'd be really interesting to hear EP on it.
Aug 20, 2016 We all float link
@XeraX His PKs were reset for another reason. EP always tells everyone to directly ask the devs if they really wish to know why.

Also, Sieger is known for gaming the feature of this game. The devs allowed him to switch to Serco, and to Itani, and back to UIT. Allowing him to keep all the X-1s and Proms he bought from each switch. Anyone else is told they have to get rid of all their faction specific ships before changing. They need to take away all factional ships he was allowed to keep with each faction change.
Aug 20, 2016 Hoban-Wash-Washburne link
+1 @WeAllFloat
Aug 20, 2016 greenwall link
-1 because A) it is impossible to discuss this in these forums without regurgitating the past AGAIN and B) because it only really affects two people
Aug 20, 2016 Whistler link
I have to agree that this is really something that you should discuss with the devs. It's not really something that should be left to public opinion. I have emailed Incarnate for you, so rest assured that it has gone to the correct email. I suspect that they're busy with post-update stuff at the moment, so don't expect an instant response.
Aug 20, 2016 incarnate link
EP cheated, then provoked people about it extensively (in-game and on the forums), then lied about it when I directly confronted him in email, all of which contributed to a massive waste of developer time.

As I have stated previously, despite everyone saying "oh, his PKs were reset for Another Reason", the simple reality is more like "All Of The Reasons".

I don't think raising this discussion is in the best interest of the community, or that Sieger/EP's P/K rating is that important in the big picture.

I'm not really interested in community feedback on this at present.