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It would be cool to give observer bots some role in this. For example, if an observer bot notices that a ship has been mining in a 'bot' sector, or if an observer notices that X bots have been destroyed, he will attempt to fly to the nearest queen or levi and trigger a strike force. You can prevent this by spotting the observer bot and killing it before it gets out far enough to jump.
It might also be cool to give players a better understanding of bot behaviour by having bots transmit messages on sector chat. Something like: "Observer PR-XYZ: [decrypted hive message] vulnerable enemy spotted in sector H3, returning home to report".
It might also be cool to give players a better understanding of bot behaviour by having bots transmit messages on sector chat. Something like: "Observer PR-XYZ: [decrypted hive message] vulnerable enemy spotted in sector H3, returning home to report".
Misleading everyone in the thread? Wrong information? Sorry John, I thought that was your job. Sorry to step on your toes, will not happen again. I mean, it is a bit of a bad on my part to make assumptions on a 10 year old update that was promised 12 years ago.
Yes I'm getting old and bitter, maybe it is time I gave up on VO. After all, there are only so many assumptions one can make about the games current state, and none of them seem very positive.
Yes I'm getting old and bitter, maybe it is time I gave up on VO. After all, there are only so many assumptions one can make about the games current state, and none of them seem very positive.
Yoda, I'm just not interested in this kind of angst and negativity on Suggestions.. or really on the forums at all.
It's a bummer that you're bitter. But it's your burden to manage, and I take zero responsibility for it.
I've hung on and continued to make this game, at great personal sacrifice; so you should really just be grateful the game is still here at all, instead of whining about the "promises" I've broken.
On that note, let's keep any further discussion on the topic of the actual subject at hand..
It's a bummer that you're bitter. But it's your burden to manage, and I take zero responsibility for it.
I've hung on and continued to make this game, at great personal sacrifice; so you should really just be grateful the game is still here at all, instead of whining about the "promises" I've broken.
On that note, let's keep any further discussion on the topic of the actual subject at hand..
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NPC pirates should be prepared to pay their 1,000,000 franchise fee to FAMY.
A couple of ideas that may be in line with the direction you are heading Inc:
Border Patrol style mission for UIT that is vs pirates.
Ace NPC kills count toward a badge that unlocks special varients of top tier fighters with cool little kill marker liveries and slightly hopped up specs i.e. strafing hound, L port valk, infini turbo sky prom, UDV that can radar even in fogged sectors etc etc.
A couple of ideas that may be in line with the direction you are heading Inc:
Border Patrol style mission for UIT that is vs pirates.
Ace NPC kills count toward a badge that unlocks special varients of top tier fighters with cool little kill marker liveries and slightly hopped up specs i.e. strafing hound, L port valk, infini turbo sky prom, UDV that can radar even in fogged sectors etc etc.
UDV that can radar even in fogged sectors etc etc.
*ding ding ding ding ding ding*
*ding ding ding ding ding ding*
So, fyi that people should check out the new bots in Latos F12. I only had a brief window of an hour or so to tinker on Friday, so they aren't drastically different from existing bot mechanics, but they do strafe (and avoid shots) better than any others in the game. The combination of loadouts seemed like it would be a bit more challenging as well.
I'll continue to tinker with higher-difficulty bots when I have time, but feel free to check them out for now.
I'll continue to tinker with higher-difficulty bots when I have time, but feel free to check them out for now.
NPC pirates should be prepared to pay their 1,000,000 franchise fee to FAMY.
I think they'll just kill the poor bastards.
I think they'll just kill the poor bastards.
So I didn't know where else to reply to that so I guess this will do. Thank you for not just knee-jerk thread muting me btw.
I always wanted tougher bots, I think you can notice the enthusiasm from the thread I linked that a lot of others did too. So I find it a bit lame actually that you dialled down the bots just to accomodate mobile players while giving us PC and long term players the big middle finger. There have been plenty of threads about this, but basically why make the bots easier for mobile and then drop this shit tonnage in? It makes no sense mate. Bots used to attack fine (apart from the bot cracking thing) and some of them even had attitude, then you took away the fact that Wings defend themselves and (static) bots now attack solo (they used to attack in pairs, or even Trio's. trust me working out how to kill 3 prosus at once on mobile is FUN). Queens do not even attempt to defend themselves and Transports in bot wings can be attacked with impunity.
Grats on giving bots better guns, but they really are no smarter. How about you stop catering for mobile players and if they cannot handle the bots attacking in groups like they should then give them another way to level up! And what about pussy queens that do not fire back and escorts actually defending themselves? How about fixing the bots that get sent to the nation borders as a "reward" for winning the deneb battles so they actually attack things? Dropping a shitty bot sector in Latos of all places is hardly a win. Yes I am getting a bit bitter, in fact I think I should get properly muted this time, because if that is what you think a fix or even a patch is? Lost faith mate, lost faith.
All the above got broken when you invited mobile players to the table, I even made a suggestion to accommodate them but alas apart from being a dick, your game is boring, adios.
I always wanted tougher bots, I think you can notice the enthusiasm from the thread I linked that a lot of others did too. So I find it a bit lame actually that you dialled down the bots just to accomodate mobile players while giving us PC and long term players the big middle finger. There have been plenty of threads about this, but basically why make the bots easier for mobile and then drop this shit tonnage in? It makes no sense mate. Bots used to attack fine (apart from the bot cracking thing) and some of them even had attitude, then you took away the fact that Wings defend themselves and (static) bots now attack solo (they used to attack in pairs, or even Trio's. trust me working out how to kill 3 prosus at once on mobile is FUN). Queens do not even attempt to defend themselves and Transports in bot wings can be attacked with impunity.
Grats on giving bots better guns, but they really are no smarter. How about you stop catering for mobile players and if they cannot handle the bots attacking in groups like they should then give them another way to level up! And what about pussy queens that do not fire back and escorts actually defending themselves? How about fixing the bots that get sent to the nation borders as a "reward" for winning the deneb battles so they actually attack things? Dropping a shitty bot sector in Latos of all places is hardly a win. Yes I am getting a bit bitter, in fact I think I should get properly muted this time, because if that is what you think a fix or even a patch is? Lost faith mate, lost faith.
All the above got broken when you invited mobile players to the table, I even made a suggestion to accommodate them but alas apart from being a dick, your game is boring, adios.
IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH MOBILE PLAYERS.
There are things that always WERE broken, but you didn't understand how (or how that might be impacted by other development). There were other things that likely became (unintentionally) MORE broken at one time or another. But none of this was done with intent, or design. You attribute intent ("giving the finger") to situations where it never existed.
I have never, ever said "The bots are too hard for mobile players, let's dumb them all down!".
Seriously, if you could just stick to the suggestion part without all the confused ranty ranty, your posts would have 1000% greater value.
I didn't claim these new bots were any smarter, just that I had an hour to make some that were aggressive and strafe a little better.
Now, it's great that you appreciate the ability to comment and not being thread muted.. But if you don't immediately and permanently stop ranting about vague historical accusations, I will ban you from Suggestions entirely.
I want to make the game better too. I also like harder bots. And if Michael or Ray broke the AI blackboard or gangup system at some point, and we've been too busy flailing around trying to stay in business.. to notice, or to fix it? Well, that sucks. But I have zero patience with the angsty assumption of intent. I've made lots of conscious, aware, but ultimately bad decisions, to which I will freely admit.. BUT "MAKE ALL BOTS BORING" WAS NOT ONE OF THEM.
There are things that always WERE broken, but you didn't understand how (or how that might be impacted by other development). There were other things that likely became (unintentionally) MORE broken at one time or another. But none of this was done with intent, or design. You attribute intent ("giving the finger") to situations where it never existed.
I have never, ever said "The bots are too hard for mobile players, let's dumb them all down!".
Seriously, if you could just stick to the suggestion part without all the confused ranty ranty, your posts would have 1000% greater value.
I didn't claim these new bots were any smarter, just that I had an hour to make some that were aggressive and strafe a little better.
Now, it's great that you appreciate the ability to comment and not being thread muted.. But if you don't immediately and permanently stop ranting about vague historical accusations, I will ban you from Suggestions entirely.
I want to make the game better too. I also like harder bots. And if Michael or Ray broke the AI blackboard or gangup system at some point, and we've been too busy flailing around trying to stay in business.. to notice, or to fix it? Well, that sucks. But I have zero patience with the angsty assumption of intent. I've made lots of conscious, aware, but ultimately bad decisions, to which I will freely admit.. BUT "MAKE ALL BOTS BORING" WAS NOT ONE OF THEM.
Yes Inc, I get the message. Sorry for hi-jacking your thread .Scorpio. you do make some good points, and they seemed to tickle my fancy. Sorry about that.
Btw Inc, do you want that Ni-Cad back yet? :P
Btw Inc, do you want that Ni-Cad back yet? :P
I am .scorpio., anyway, I want sectors that are seriously brutal. Like, you will most likely not survive. Responding to whomever asked if I have done mission arcs, (sorry i got lost catching up) I have done just about all the missions, on 4 chars. I love em! I just really want some hardcore grinders somewhere in the verse, so I can satisfy my masochistic obsession with becoming the best there is xD
Have you flown into Latos F12? Those bots are at least pretty aggressive.
But, yeah, we are actively working on this in general.
But, yeah, we are actively working on this in general.
Whelp, now we have bots attacking stations and camping wormholes in swarms of 10-40, so thank you.
Glad I could help!
I definitely like the changes I have seen so far. I have not seen those roaming NPCs in a few days though.