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Elite Mining Class Vessels
Introduce new Elite Mining Class variants of Heavy Miner Behemoth and Goliath that have same stats as currently, but 20% less armor and a special ability to hold 1000% over capacity of directly mined ore.
-Should require Heavy Miner 3 and Master Prospector badges
-Loaded cargo in station would not be able to exceed cargo limits
-Picked up cargo in space would not be able to exceed cargo limits (so if you accidently drop your ore, you can't pick it back up if you are over the normal capacity)
Purpose: To incentivize mining RP, to give new end game content to pursue
-Should require Heavy Miner 3 and Master Prospector badges
-Loaded cargo in station would not be able to exceed cargo limits
-Picked up cargo in space would not be able to exceed cargo limits (so if you accidently drop your ore, you can't pick it back up if you are over the normal capacity)
Purpose: To incentivize mining RP, to give new end game content to pursue
1000% would be like 1200 ores right?
I like and endorse the idea, but maybe that's too many ores in one load and needs to be tweaked.
I like and endorse the idea, but maybe that's too many ores in one load and needs to be tweaked.
+1
It would be cool for lengthy mining sessions far from stations, but 1600cu (10x moth miner II) of ore on non capital engine would make it so sluggish and uncontrollabe that it somehow becomes balanced (:
For further balance I suggest decreasing armor by 60% and every speed/thrust stat (except turbo speed) by 10%
For goli I think about additionaly decreasing both shield cap and regen by 60%, removing turret ports and giving it some bulit in high efficiency mining beams, as well as integrated mineral scanner (similliar to moth miner II and one suggested here but with tripled range and 1 second scan interval)
Will this new elite behemoth have 3 lp like behemoth miner II?
It would be cool for lengthy mining sessions far from stations, but 1600cu (10x moth miner II) of ore on non capital engine would make it so sluggish and uncontrollabe that it somehow becomes balanced (:
For further balance I suggest decreasing armor by 60% and every speed/thrust stat (except turbo speed) by 10%
For goli I think about additionaly decreasing both shield cap and regen by 60%, removing turret ports and giving it some bulit in high efficiency mining beams, as well as integrated mineral scanner (similliar to moth miner II and one suggested here but with tripled range and 1 second scan interval)
Will this new elite behemoth have 3 lp like behemoth miner II?
+1 to adding more ways to mine. Could even add in something like "New ore compression technology" to give it a bit of lore.
While most people might think this would be "over powered", I'd like you to try look at it as a mining quality of life. Instead of mining, dumping ore into space and making 10 trips back and forth to unload it all into a station is very mundane. Being able to mine 1600 and take it back in one trip is much more convenient than 10 trips. Requiring the ore to be directly mined and not able to be picked up in space is balanced enough, imo.
-Should require Heavy Miner 3 and Master Prospector badges
Assuming you mean basic miner 3, then this seems like a pretty reasonable requirement.
For further balance I suggest decreasing armor by 60% and every speed/thrust stat (except turbo speed) by 10%
I think that would be quite an extreme "balance" as it would make it obsolete on release. It's also a bit contradictory to say it would make it sluggish and uncontrollable and then suggesting to decrease it's ability to move well in the next line.
For goli I think about additionaly decreasing both shield cap and regen by 60%
This also doesn't make very much sense, seeing as an EC with a heavy cell and Plasma HX would be able to deshield it.
While most people might think this would be "over powered", I'd like you to try look at it as a mining quality of life. Instead of mining, dumping ore into space and making 10 trips back and forth to unload it all into a station is very mundane. Being able to mine 1600 and take it back in one trip is much more convenient than 10 trips. Requiring the ore to be directly mined and not able to be picked up in space is balanced enough, imo.
-Should require Heavy Miner 3 and Master Prospector badges
Assuming you mean basic miner 3, then this seems like a pretty reasonable requirement.
For further balance I suggest decreasing armor by 60% and every speed/thrust stat (except turbo speed) by 10%
I think that would be quite an extreme "balance" as it would make it obsolete on release. It's also a bit contradictory to say it would make it sluggish and uncontrollable and then suggesting to decrease it's ability to move well in the next line.
For goli I think about additionaly decreasing both shield cap and regen by 60%
This also doesn't make very much sense, seeing as an EC with a heavy cell and Plasma HX would be able to deshield it.
@notcreative
It would be a challenge to putz around with heavier ore like Sammic, yes. But a full load of, say, Aquean, then it would be comparable to a full load of neut mk1s in a standard 160cu haul, which is heavy but not unmanageable.
@Nick
Yes, basic miner 3, my bad.
It would be a challenge to putz around with heavier ore like Sammic, yes. But a full load of, say, Aquean, then it would be comparable to a full load of neut mk1s in a standard 160cu haul, which is heavy but not unmanageable.
@Nick
Yes, basic miner 3, my bad.
+1 to the OP
Notcreativename I've flown a 630 ton XC through 3 systems, and I can certify that while difficult, it is very much possible to fly 1600 cu of even the heavier ores such as prem. Xith or Lanth with the current moth movement stats.
Notcreativename I've flown a 630 ton XC through 3 systems, and I can certify that while difficult, it is very much possible to fly 1600 cu of even the heavier ores such as prem. Xith or Lanth with the current moth movement stats.