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team strategy, queen killing and mining

Jan 12, 2005 ananzi link
I have seen similar ideas to this,,, but it seems that queen killing, and mining can be combine somehow into a team effort. .... if the game itself is slightly modified.

After the queen is killed, then there could be a 5-10 minute moratorium on all bot-spawning in all sectors of the system.

Thus, if timed just right, miners and their escorts can be in a sector, kill all the bots, and not have to deal with 'respawns' for a small window, during which they can extract the valuable ore and leave.

This would open up interesting possibilities in tactics and strategy for mining in sectors with bots. Currently there are only 2 that I know of... for low-level bots, escorts kill them as they come... and for high level bots, escorts shoot each bot to aggro it, and then drag away the bot swarm from the miners.

With the spawn moratorium based on queens death, the efforts of queen-killers, miners, and miner escorts could be combined.. and new ship loadouts would become more advantageous than others for completing the goal.

I guess a problem is that people are always needing to kill bots to jack up that idiotic combat XP in order to get valk or prom. With 5 minute 'blank spaces' people will become annoyed waiting around for more bots to appear so they can monotonously kill them. Well even so, perhaps some alternative permutation of this threads idea is still valid in some context.

Thanks.
Jan 12, 2005 hronek link
i'll second this. it'd help the VO universe seem more dynamic and alive. maybe reports of queen killings in the news, too.
Jan 12, 2005 johnhawl218 link
This is a great idea!!! And I don't see the 5 minute anti-respawn time as that bad at all.
Jan 12, 2005 wylfing link
This is a brilliant idea.

I vote for a full 10 minutes. This should be in addition to being able to clear individual sectors of bots.
Jan 12, 2005 Shapenaji link
sounds great to me. I always wished there was some way to slow bot production.
Jan 12, 2005 Suicidal Lemming link
Perhaps a sub-queen bot that constructs orun and dentek collector bots so that newbies all of a sudden don't have a source of botting for 5-10 minutes. Perhaps a couple, so you could destroy one, but the others would compensate for the loss of its building bots.
Jan 13, 2005 Knight_Of_Order link
mmmm, how bout this

Bots are made from the queen, SOO when a bot is killed the queen is ordered to create another and send it to the other bots currents location. the collectors tacking the least time to "re-spawn" and the assaults taking the longest time. because i have found some good apacein mining, but the annoying bots keep bothering me about it. its almost like they resent the fact that i am mining in there space.
Jan 13, 2005 johnhawl218 link
this spawned a question last night for me, who constructs the Queens? If we keep killing them and they keep coming back there has to be something that is constructing new ones right? I'm sure that in the past history we (humans) were the creators, but since they have gone rogue on us they have to do it themselves. I would love to see the monster of a ship that creates Queens, now that would be something worth taking on.
Jan 13, 2005 ananzi link
in ants, queens create other queens.

but i am just talking a basic gameplay tweak here not an overhaul of the AI system.
Jan 13, 2005 johnhawl218 link
Your right Ananzi, queens do create queens, but what I was saying was that I'm sure there is a head queen of queens. If a queen was to make a queen it would have to be still in space for a while I would imagine. But, if they creat mini-queens that then grow as there protector bots bring them much needed ores, then you could have a BIG queen that is the origin of all queens. Perhaps even the first one that went rogue hundreds of years ago. In any case did not mean to pull off track. =)

Killing queens to invoke a no respawn period for bots in a system would be awesome!!
Jan 13, 2005 ananzi link
well i would like to see the 'uber queen' too... maybe she can battle the frigate lol!
Jan 13, 2005 Beolach link
And if we manage to kill the 'uber queen', all the other queens leave their systems & go to a random sector in a random system, and rebuild the 'uber queen' together...
Jan 14, 2005 Weasel link
... and finally, if one kills all the other queens that are on their way to rebuild the 'uber queens', the entire botting part of the game comes to a grinding halt.

Well, *this* would give a boost to PvP... :)
Jan 14, 2005 Phaserlight link
Great idea ananzi.. I suspect the devs are moving things in that direction anyway.

Also:
http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/3/7196