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Tunguska Marauder

Feb 04, 2005 Harrison Pitts link
After finally getting around to trading enough for a standing of +920 with Tunguska, I couldn't wait to try out the Mineral Maud. After talking to people and asking them what they use for a mining ship, it became apparent that nearly all used a Centaur for mining.

It's a little odd that a Mineral Marauder made by Tunguska Heavy Mining Concern should be used less than a readily available ship.
It's been said many a time but this could be solved in two ways.

a) Give the Tung Maud another Large port

or

b) Create a new port called a "Mining port"

For the second idea to work, a large port would have to be taken off the centaur and replaced by a Mining port, and the Tung maud would have to lose it's Large port for two mining ports. The Warthog Mineral Extractor would also need a change.

Anyways, enough for my rant, keep up the good work devs :D

-Osiris-X-
Feb 04, 2005 Spellcast link
most people use a centaur because they are working on raising their mining level, not making money at it.

With 60cu of cargo space, the tunguska maud is GREAT for actually attempting to make money at mining. You make more profit per trip by going out, locating a profitable mineral, filling your hold with 60 of it, than you do with the centaur, which only carries 44-48 (50 for the centaur agresso).
Feb 04, 2005 Beolach link
Per trip, you can make more money with the MMaud, true, but per time, you can make more with the Centaur. The best way to make money is to stockpile & sell a large amount at a high price. A decent stockpile is hundreds of units, so you'd be making multiple trips, even with the MMaud. But the MMaud would spend more time mining because its one beam can't keep up with the two in a Centaur. And then of course the two beams are more efficient heat-wise, as well.

I suppose if you spent a lot of time traveling to the station where you planned on selling, the MMaud's larger hold would be more useful, but I usually sell at stations in the same system as where I mine, so it really doesn't take me all that long to jump back to the station, unload, jump back & mine again.

I've also thought for a while that a special mining port would help to specialize ships to be excellent mining ships without also becoming too powerful in combat & other activities. I'd like to still see some non-mining-port equipment, so that regular Centaurs & other ships would still be capable of doing mining, but all of the really good mining beams would be for mining ports.

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Oh, and if players are really only concerned with power-leveling mining, they're better off in a Rag than either a MMaud or Centaur.
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Feb 04, 2005 Sun Tzu link
Never trust the Tunguska - they don't think like us.

They call it Mineral, but in fact it is a unique trading ship.
Feb 04, 2005 Borb II link
I use a centa to do the mining and then I use a tung muad to take the ore to a station that will buy it high.
Feb 04, 2005 Fnugget link
I leave MMauds and Aggresso's at my mining stations. The aggresso mines and carries in the ores, then I switch to MMaud and stock elsewhere, sell, then return the MMaud to the station, and get a centurion to travel elsewhere.
Feb 04, 2005 ananzi link
I do what borb and fnugget do. I mine with a Centaur, because the two beams and the manueverability-when-loaded make it much faster (and safer) for gathering ore. I gather up about 200-300 at a station, then I transport them with the 'mineral marauder' to another station.

There is just no getting around the fact that two beams mine twice as fast as 1 beam, and twice the thrust accelerates/decelerates a load of ore twice as fast, and the Mineral Marauder having 20% more cargo room doesn't make up for either of these facts.
Feb 05, 2005 Beolach link
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