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Valkyrie Mjollnir (new ship variant)

Mar 11, 2005 Beolach link
Valkyrie Mjollnir (or Hammer, if you'd prefer)
Heavy Assault Variant
License Requirements: 9/6/10/1/-
Armor: 9750
Cargo: 2
Weapons: 0S, 1L
Mass: 4000kg
Length: 12m
Thrust: 220 kN
Max Speed: 65 m/s
Spin Torque: 7.5 Nm
Turbo Speed: 225 m/s
Turbo Energy: 55/s

The main reason I'm suggesting this, is because I want to arm a Valk with a Mega Positron Blaster. ;-)
Mar 11, 2005 CrippledPidgeon link
Isn't that ridiculously uber? A superfast ship with an L port and more armor than a Warthog? Think of that thing with a Gatling Turret on it. You'd never lose. You'd have the speed to zip around everything in space, getting practically continuous hits, and having the armor to take the damage on approach. Nothing would be able to survive that thing.
Mar 11, 2005 johnhawl218 link
kind of like the prom is now…
Mar 11, 2005 softy2 link
Hahaha.

I almost thought CP was being ironic.
Mar 11, 2005 fleabait link
cept its not superfast, in fact, it would be slower than the current AGT only prom
Mar 11, 2005 roguelazer link
[rejected]
Mar 11, 2005 ctishman link
[naysay'd]
Mar 11, 2005 KixKizzle link
OoOo look at mine then.
http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/3/9572?page=#110004

/givemoney Devs 2c
Mar 11, 2005 Beolach link
It really wasn't intended to be uber at all, everything was about middle-of-the-pack with the current Valks, except thrust & spin torque, which are closer to what I think Valks maybe should have. But, other than the 0S 1L, I was thinking it would have everything else about where the other Valks end up, and you can't tell me 0S 1L makes it uber. Roguelazer & ctishman, was it the weapon slots, or the other stats you didn't like? Or something else entirely?
Mar 11, 2005 Solra Bizna link
I remember a few months ago, imagining a mining variant Valkyrie.
"Oh no," I said in 100, "I just pictured a Valk with an AGT. Scary."
-:sigma.SB
Mar 11, 2005 Beolach link
I'm not convinced that a Valk+AGT would be all that uber. Powerful, yes, but not overly so. Maybe I haven't fought with the AGT enough, but I have fought against it a fair bit, and while it is powerful, it's short range enough that it doesn't assure that you'll win, by any means. Now, the Valk would be excellent at getting to & keeping in the AGT's effective range, maybe too much so, but playing with the other stats could change that. Maybe up the mass to 4000 or so.

And I don't like the AGT anyway. Too energy hungry. It's all about the Queen gun, baby!
Mar 11, 2005 roguelazer link
No light ship should have a large port. The warthog is borderline. With the crazy engine, so is the prom. Putting one on a valk would be insanity. It would be like the original tung maud, only worse.
Mar 11, 2005 Beolach link
/me goes & does math that he should have done first...

This proposed Valk would have an empty acceleration of 67.1 (mass 3500kg), or 58.75 (4000kg).
The basic Prom has 52.5, the SCP has 59 (and acceleration would be less affected by adding weapon mass)
The basic Warthog has 31.67, the TD has 41.5 (wow, that sucks).

So, yeah, with these stats it'd out-class the Warthog quite a bit, and possibly the Prom a bit (depending on the weapon mass, the Prom's better if they both have AGT).

So, I'm changing the stats: 4000kg mass, 220kN thrust, and armor down to 9750. This should place it somewhere between the Hog TD & Prom. And the hog needs a bit of beefing up, methinks. This variant of Valk I'd consider more a medium ship than a light.
Mar 12, 2005 roguelazer link
Still don't like it. Valks should not have large ports.