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TRS, thanks for the link describing your ideal mate, how cute! Here's one for you, sweety:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Untrollable
And Dr., what you imagine and what reality is are two different things. Try to separate them when discussing topics here with other sentient humans so we can have a productive conversation. Also, seems like you needs some practice with reading comprehension, so try this out:
http://www.k12reader.com/reading-comprehension/Gr1_Wk2_The_Man_Has_a_Can.pdf
Make it so, Incarnate!
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Untrollable
And Dr., what you imagine and what reality is are two different things. Try to separate them when discussing topics here with other sentient humans so we can have a productive conversation. Also, seems like you needs some practice with reading comprehension, so try this out:
http://www.k12reader.com/reading-comprehension/Gr1_Wk2_The_Man_Has_a_Can.pdf
Make it so, Incarnate!
Still unable to rebut the fact that what the backstory says about the major factions' toleration of Corvus, and whether the major factions should make Corvus standing mutually exclusive with their own standings, have nothing to do with each other?
Then maybe you should stop saying stupid shit like It really doesn't have to happen and your reasons for it don't make any sense. It even states in the game why the UIT tolerates Corvus.
Then maybe you should stop saying stupid shit like It really doesn't have to happen and your reasons for it don't make any sense. It even states in the game why the UIT tolerates Corvus.
Tolerating its presence in Grey and treating its pilots with admiration/respect/neutrality in UIT space are two very different things. And you know that. But since you're a duplicitous piece of shit, you gloss over it and hope nobody notices. Sad, really.
You seem to be mixing up "its pilots," which are corvus-aligned NPCs with players who happened to buy one of their ships and ultimately have their own relations with the UIT.
But hey, maybe if you gloss over that detail, nobody will notice, you duplicitous piece of shit.
You seem to be mixing up "its pilots," which are corvus-aligned NPCs with players who happened to buy one of their ships and ultimately have their own relations with the UIT.
But hey, maybe if you gloss over that detail, nobody will notice, you duplicitous piece of shit.
....soon very soon ....in near future (10 years for now ...i play 1 year and 2 months and await for the new Trident variant and suppose .....anyway ...we have alot of future...quantum physics not lie !!!) ...devs maybe think about it ....but only if someones to re-posted again ....anyway, have all fun !!!
Cheers....
Cheers....
You seem to be mixing up "its pilots," which are corvus-aligned NPCs with players who happened to buy one of their ships and ultimately have their own relations with the UIT.
And of course the Itani shouldn't mind players who happened to get high Serco standing and buy a SCP, so long as those player ultimately have their own relations with the Itani, right?
You're not very good at this.
And of course the Itani shouldn't mind players who happened to get high Serco standing and buy a SCP, so long as those player ultimately have their own relations with the Itani, right?
You're not very good at this.
....soon very soon ....in near future (10 years for now ...i play 1 year and 2 months and await for the new Trident variant and suppose .....anyway ...we have alot of future...quantum physics not lie !!!) ...devs maybe think about it ....but only if someones to re-posted again ....anyway, have all fun !!!
Cheers....
This has nothing to do with the trident variant... go away.
Cheers....
This has nothing to do with the trident variant... go away.
despite all this yimmer yammering, it's clear the OP is a good one!
Lecter, you're right. I'm not very good at this. I'm not a douchebag who's paid to talk useless circles around people for the specific purpose of obscuring the truth. You're here to troll people and twist their words for your own stupid enjoyment. I'm just here to play a video game.
Itani and Serco are at war. The UIT is not at war with Corvus. What's so hard to understand about that?
Itani and Serco are at war. The UIT is not at war with Corvus. What's so hard to understand about that?
Probably the fact that you see the UIT/Corvus relationship as being set in stone when it could easily be tweaked to make gameplay more interesting, or that you've interpreted it one way when it's left open to interpretation, or that you believe the lore should be the base for the game, instead of the other way around.
Yeah, Lecter's winding you up. But you're still being dumb, which is annoying because I agree with you in that it shouldn't be UIT/Corvus that dictate whether the ship is available to you or not.
+1 to making the Greyhound exclusive in some fashion. If anything, I reckon it'd best be cut off from Itani and Serco loyalists, the enlisted with access to the X1 or the SkyCommand. Stops people from having a best ship for any situation.
After all... if Corvus were seen to be taking sides, things could turn bad for them very quickly.
Yeah, Lecter's winding you up. But you're still being dumb, which is annoying because I agree with you in that it shouldn't be UIT/Corvus that dictate whether the ship is available to you or not.
+1 to making the Greyhound exclusive in some fashion. If anything, I reckon it'd best be cut off from Itani and Serco loyalists, the enlisted with access to the X1 or the SkyCommand. Stops people from having a best ship for any situation.
After all... if Corvus were seen to be taking sides, things could turn bad for them very quickly.
What those that are for this idea of Greyhound exclusivity seem to be overlooking is that Corvus is "Black Market" oriented. As such, they will sell to ANYBODY that is willing to pay the credits. One of the things that make them tolerated by the Itani, Serco, and UIT is that they don't exclude trade with any of them or all of them. Were they to do so would be equivelant to declaring themselves a 'Nation'. This would of course lead to them being a KOS target, even in their own space, to any or all of the other 'Nations'.
Corvus standing should rest primarily upon selling stolen merchandise to Corvus stations (remove the Trade Guild missions from Corvus stations). Have a special flag set on cargo items which are dropped due to death in order to identify them as "stolen". Self-destruction would not set the flag, and the original owner's ID would be recorded as well (the one who dropped them); these are to make it slightly harder to "steal" your own cargo.
Corvus standing should automatically deteriorate over time, so you'd have to keep selling stolen cargo to them to maintain it. There could be other faction-boosting missions as well, mostly of criminal tone. No trade/mining bullshit.
Note that the old complaint that you can't be permitted to lose Corvus standing is no longer valid, because nowadays Corvus permits you to dock and buy a bus no matter what standing you have with them. People who fuck up their home standings would still be able to spawn at Corvus even if they were KOS with it. There could also be a special condition that kicks in if your real standing with your home nation is hated or kos that boosts your Corvus standing to Disliked if it was lower. It shouldn't kick in for tempkos though.
Anyway, that would be a way to have greyhound exclusivity without a direct UIT-Corvus mutual exclusion. It would still permit traders to break RP and loot convoys in greyspace to gain access to the hound, but then it also means that any future requests they make toward convoys reporting attacks and what-not apply to them as well, so I don't really care.
And flying a Corvus ship in any nation's space should automatically make you temp-kos.
Corvus standing should automatically deteriorate over time, so you'd have to keep selling stolen cargo to them to maintain it. There could be other faction-boosting missions as well, mostly of criminal tone. No trade/mining bullshit.
Note that the old complaint that you can't be permitted to lose Corvus standing is no longer valid, because nowadays Corvus permits you to dock and buy a bus no matter what standing you have with them. People who fuck up their home standings would still be able to spawn at Corvus even if they were KOS with it. There could also be a special condition that kicks in if your real standing with your home nation is hated or kos that boosts your Corvus standing to Disliked if it was lower. It shouldn't kick in for tempkos though.
Anyway, that would be a way to have greyhound exclusivity without a direct UIT-Corvus mutual exclusion. It would still permit traders to break RP and loot convoys in greyspace to gain access to the hound, but then it also means that any future requests they make toward convoys reporting attacks and what-not apply to them as well, so I don't really care.
And flying a Corvus ship in any nation's space should automatically make you temp-kos.
+1 Pizza. I'm not sure if widgets are flagged in anyway regarding owner / previous owner, but I would hazard that goods stolen from a player would count for more standing than goods taken from an escort mission.
Now we just need add some traders and things would be perfect
Now we just need add some traders and things would be perfect
Actually Pizzasgood the whole tagging goods as stolen is an interesting idea. That could work, tagged goods then could be made impossible to sell at non-Corvus stations as well except in the case of goods stolen from Itani players and NPC's also be sold to Serco stations and vise-versa. This would make raids into enemy territory and the attacking and destruction of rival nationals more rewarding that just fighting or not for the heck of it. Also docking at non-Corvus stations with goods stolen goods aquired directly or purchased from another player could have a random chance of causing your ship and entire load and station storage to be confiscated due to random customs checks of course. This could lead to some cool 'smuggling' RP as well.
Itani and Serco are at war. The UIT is not at war with Corvus. What's so hard to understand about that?
That the UIT, the Serco, and the Itani have decided that "knowing where the hornets nest" is better than wasting resources on an invasion that would ultimately only disperse their enemy hardly means they're not at war. I suppose you'd call relations between the USA and the USSR during the period of ~1950-1991 entirely copacetic?
Nobody's arguing the UIT and Corvus are involved in the kind of conflict the Serco are waging against the Itani (though there're some interesting parallels between the Itani's approach to the Serco and the UIT approach to Corvus). What's being argued is that while a civilized nation might pick its battles against Corvus, and might not care that its citizens travel to Corvus stations and transact business there, they might care very much if its citizens rose to prominence and high standing in what everyone acknowledges is a dangerous group of criminals who are, for the time being, beyond the capabilities of that nation (and its quasi-allies) to bring entirely to heel.
The idea that Corvus is a blackmarket entity is irrelevant. Even Corvus will not sell its high-end tech and ships to Joe Blow with lower Corvus standing. What's being suggested here is that obtaining the high Corvus standing necessary to buy such items carry consequences with it for a player's standing with at least some (if not all) of the major factions.
Despite ARF's idiotic attempts at reasoning, there are great RP reasons for that to occur (indeed, it not occuring is one of the dumber things about VO's faction system...and that's saying A LOT). And as shown by the fact that the Hound is being used for things it was never designed to do (I should know), there are great gameplay reasons for that to occur.
I love Rin's suggestion about Corvus faction being gained via shady means, though I think maybe you should be able to slowly gain faction with Corvus by being a trade bitch (only up to, say, respect). To gain faction faster, and for Admire/POS, you'd need to sell looted cargoes and take piracy/assassination missions. There's already a system in place for this...though it's been out of VO for so damn long I don't know if it would work with what's running now. We used to have Corvus missions where you'd be sent to raid convoys with NPC Pirates and loot that specific cargo; other cargo wouldn't work for the mission, and someone scooping up that specific cargo who wasn't on the mission was tracked and shot at by the Unrats until they died or dropped it.
And of course, I miss the Unrat snowflakes around the WHs...their absence is part of the reason Grey is such a pussified place. Player pirates shouldn't be the only thing making Grey dangerous, but for years now that's been the case.
That the UIT, the Serco, and the Itani have decided that "knowing where the hornets nest" is better than wasting resources on an invasion that would ultimately only disperse their enemy hardly means they're not at war. I suppose you'd call relations between the USA and the USSR during the period of ~1950-1991 entirely copacetic?
Nobody's arguing the UIT and Corvus are involved in the kind of conflict the Serco are waging against the Itani (though there're some interesting parallels between the Itani's approach to the Serco and the UIT approach to Corvus). What's being argued is that while a civilized nation might pick its battles against Corvus, and might not care that its citizens travel to Corvus stations and transact business there, they might care very much if its citizens rose to prominence and high standing in what everyone acknowledges is a dangerous group of criminals who are, for the time being, beyond the capabilities of that nation (and its quasi-allies) to bring entirely to heel.
The idea that Corvus is a blackmarket entity is irrelevant. Even Corvus will not sell its high-end tech and ships to Joe Blow with lower Corvus standing. What's being suggested here is that obtaining the high Corvus standing necessary to buy such items carry consequences with it for a player's standing with at least some (if not all) of the major factions.
Despite ARF's idiotic attempts at reasoning, there are great RP reasons for that to occur (indeed, it not occuring is one of the dumber things about VO's faction system...and that's saying A LOT). And as shown by the fact that the Hound is being used for things it was never designed to do (I should know), there are great gameplay reasons for that to occur.
I love Rin's suggestion about Corvus faction being gained via shady means, though I think maybe you should be able to slowly gain faction with Corvus by being a trade bitch (only up to, say, respect). To gain faction faster, and for Admire/POS, you'd need to sell looted cargoes and take piracy/assassination missions. There's already a system in place for this...though it's been out of VO for so damn long I don't know if it would work with what's running now. We used to have Corvus missions where you'd be sent to raid convoys with NPC Pirates and loot that specific cargo; other cargo wouldn't work for the mission, and someone scooping up that specific cargo who wasn't on the mission was tracked and shot at by the Unrats until they died or dropped it.
And of course, I miss the Unrat snowflakes around the WHs...their absence is part of the reason Grey is such a pussified place. Player pirates shouldn't be the only thing making Grey dangerous, but for years now that's been the case.
Pizzasgood is actually on to something here. The act of piracy is the crime in the eyes of the UIT/Itani/Serco. Blowing up their convoys to obtain stolen goods needs to carry a penalty.
Not this "You have Corvus standing, go to jail!" horseshit idiots like Dr. Lecter keep pushing. Why would Corvus even divulge information about the business it does with individuals to the likes of the three major nations? It makes no sense.
Not this "You have Corvus standing, go to jail!" horseshit idiots like Dr. Lecter keep pushing. Why would Corvus even divulge information about the business it does with individuals to the likes of the three major nations? It makes no sense.
Seriously? Why would the Serco disclose info about the business they do with a given pilot to the Itani? And yet somehow, Serco and Itani standing are magically mutually exclusive.
You're an idiot.
You're an idiot.
Good point, that really doesn't make much sense either. Why can you see what someone's standing is other than with the faction that owns the space you're currently in?
You're an assclown.
You're an assclown.
"Corvus standing should rest primarily upon selling stolen merchandise to Corvus stations (remove the Trade Guild missions from Corvus stations). Have a special flag set on cargo items which are dropped due to death in order to identify them as "stolen". Self-destruction would not set the flag, and the original owner's ID would be recorded as well (the one who dropped them); these are to make it slightly harder to "steal" your own cargo.
Corvus standing should automatically deteriorate over time, so you'd have to keep selling stolen cargo to them to maintain it. There could be other faction-boosting missions as well, mostly of criminal tone. No trade/mining bullshit."
On a scale of copperhead to cobra, this is a black mamba level suggestion.
+1
Corvus standing should automatically deteriorate over time, so you'd have to keep selling stolen cargo to them to maintain it. There could be other faction-boosting missions as well, mostly of criminal tone. No trade/mining bullshit."
On a scale of copperhead to cobra, this is a black mamba level suggestion.
+1
+1 for Rin and savets suggestions.
+1 for penalty for killing voy only in monitored sector of if a member of escort survives and reaches destination.
-1 for discriminating horse shit, horse shit is very good for plants and especially roses.
+1 for penalty for killing voy only in monitored sector of if a member of escort survives and reaches destination.
-1 for discriminating horse shit, horse shit is very good for plants and especially roses.
Good point, that really doesn't make much sense either. Why can you see what someone's standing is other than with the faction that owns the space you're currently in?
So, to be clear, you're against automatic faction exclusivity between Serco and Itani because it "doesn't make much sense"?
Thank you for confirming you're incapable of distinguishing between your fantasy world and how VO should best work as, you know, A GAME. Having made it abundantly clear you're not operating in the real world, we can all stop reading whatever you're spewing out concerning these issues.
So, to be clear, you're against automatic faction exclusivity between Serco and Itani because it "doesn't make much sense"?
Thank you for confirming you're incapable of distinguishing between your fantasy world and how VO should best work as, you know, A GAME. Having made it abundantly clear you're not operating in the real world, we can all stop reading whatever you're spewing out concerning these issues.