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Any feedback on Voice Chat?

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Oct 08, 2015 tramshed link
Wait, you can listen into other guilds voice chat? Thats tempting and juicy, makes me want to make alts.

Perhaps BLAK will rise again.
Oct 08, 2015 yodaofborg link
stab stab stab!

But no, BLAK is dead, long live BLAK!
Oct 08, 2015 Kierky link
Yeha was listening on guild chat but no one was online, heard lots of leakage about 8 hours from this post.
Oct 08, 2015 A-Dawg link
I tried using guild chat once. It wouldn't initialize because I'm on a Mac.

Any chance of VC working again on Apple products?
Oct 08, 2015 abortretryfail link
^ This. Basically all of my guildmates who use VC are on Macs. :(

Wait, you can listen into other guilds voice chat? Thats tempting and juicy, makes me want to make alts.

No, you "can't" It just happens sometimes on its own. I don't know what triggers it or why but once in a while I'll just start hearing somebody talking.
Oct 14, 2015 Darth Nihilus link
Voice chat is still "leaking". I was in a group by myself (I like to feel like I have friends) and I started hearing someone's music.

It wasn't good music.

Please save us from "leaking" music!
Oct 14, 2015 incarnate link
Ok, thanks. Sucks that it's still leaking. Tracking this down has been annoying.

We'll check into it when we can, although obviously it's a lower priority than debugging current issues like "server-crashy-ness" or "DX11-is-sad" or whatever.

FYI: The Apple thing was not us. Apple changed the way libraries can be handled, in an OS update. It was causing the client to outright crash, so instead we just disabled voice chat there. The last I talked to Ray about it, there did not appear to be a work-around, and we're limited because voice chat an external, third-party library, and we don't have the source code. We can try looking into it again, but, yeah.. falls under "not a crushing priority compared to other problems". Nothing personal against Macs, honest :).
Oct 14, 2015 Darth Nihilus link
Understandable...

But you gotta admit that bad music can be almost as terrible as server crashes...almost

On a side note: even in the wake of all the bs that's been going on do remember that you still have many subscribers that are really happy with the progress and direction of the game, so don't be too hard on yourselves

#:-*()()
Oct 14, 2015 incarnate link
Thanks man, I appreciate it.
Oct 18, 2015 davejohn link
Well, I just had a chat with devilman. Excellent audio quality, clear as a bell. Only trouble is he is in RED and I'm in TGFT.

Timed at sunday, 22:25 uk time.

One odd thing. The speaker symbol shows when I press ptt in a group, but I'm sure it used to show in the ship box when talking to guild but not grouped. Now it doesn't. May be nothing to do with the leaks, but worth noting.

I also get this or similar in the errors log:

Channels: 2
Channel: 0 desc:4294967295
Channel: 1 desc:4294967295
Oct 18, 2015 jordanmorgan14f link
I was using Voice chat with Darth Nihilus, Neon Black, and another player and it was very clear, no leakage, and the conversation lasted about 15-20 minutes with no problems.
Oct 19, 2015 teddyrandell link
We had interesting conversation Sunday evening with some RED, BLAK, FAMY, and TGFT members all hearing each other.
Oct 19, 2015 Tripod war of the worlds link
It was fun tho rar xD
Oct 19, 2015 Darth Nihilus link
Holy leakage Batman!

It is leaking right now.

My guild members can't hear me and I hear two strange individuals talking...
Oct 19, 2015 SkinWalker link
I have to admit. there's something to be said for leakage. It's usually the only time I turn VC on since I get to hear folk in other guilds (or non-guilded).

If VC is ever properly sorted out, perhaps there can be a universal channel set aside in addition to guild and group. Or screw it... just make it default to universal and make group chat an override.
Oct 19, 2015 Darth Nihilus link
Yea man...I actually really enjoyed talking with those guys, and I would have never done that without the leaking.

I agree that even if it is sorted out, they add the "100" voice chat channel.

Voice chat is a feature that is severely undervalued at the moment. It would go a long way to helping new players.
Oct 20, 2015 Tripod war of the worlds link
It was fun rar, without vc I'd probably be a normal bear in tgft....but these two days I've used vc...with famy and red, I've been having the funniest time rar. +1 to a universal chat rar!
Oct 20, 2015 Darth Nihilus link
More leakage about 5 minutes ago.

I was supposed to be in guild voice chat, but could hear, at the very least, two members from RED.

I know that it is a low priority, but just let us know if there is any other information that we could report that would useful.

Also, just to add, I created a group and heard no leakage while in group.
Oct 20, 2015 Dr. Lecter link
Well, I just had a chat with devilman. Excellent audio quality, clear as a bell. Only trouble is he is in RED and I'm in TGFT.

First, unusually witty for Ecka. Second, colour me shocked that TGFT is suffering...leakage.
Oct 20, 2015 incarnate link
Voice chat comes with a bandwidth cost (for us), which is why it isn't a general "100" public thing. It's also a bandwidth cost to a lot of people on mobile, obviously; it uses about 50x as much bandwidth as the game. Mobile bandwidth costs in some countries can be quite high.

But, general-availability voice chat would be a cool thing to have, I agree. It helps a lot with VR too.

Anyway, I don't have any specific debugging requests right now. Thanks for the reports. We'll look into it when we can.. which unfortunately isn't likely to be very soon, with everything we have going on.