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Dec 17, 2003 Zeplin link
Id like to thank NT and Itani for assisting us bug test, and taking care of certain interferance.
Not oftern I do this but its great when players can come together to assist in pin pointing problems to make the devs lives easyer =)
Dec 17, 2003 Durgia link
All this time I thought this game was a test. Yet when I try to test a bug for ray and publicly announce this and ask people not to kill me while I test it, do you know what happens? They attack me over and over and over. *Come back later to test* is what I hear. That is BS. This is a test, if I cannot test something for one of the devs what the heck is the point?
Dec 17, 2003 Zeplin link
What did ya need to test? maybe we could rally enough of us together to give you some backup
Dec 17, 2003 Forum Moderator link
I'll look for you this evening if you have not been able to complete your test by then.
Dec 17, 2003 silentsuicide link
Yeah, but if you test in large groups people are less likley to beleive you, especialy since durgia was trying to test in red home sector. We even had several other people telling the reds (who shall remain nameless) that durgia was only trying to test a bug. Having him shift his efforts to make the game more stable around their attempts at "fun" is not acceptable. This is a TEST.
Dec 17, 2003 Durgia link
actually I was in s11 trying to go to a different sector
Dec 17, 2003 Durgia link
The testing is over I think, I believe ray is working on it. But that should never have happened in the first place
Dec 17, 2003 ctishman link
I agree. However, from a gameplay point of view, there's no way an Itani or Neut is going to be allowed into Sector 2 to test something unless they give complete and detailed disclosure of what they're testing, and why it cannot be tested in their own home sector. If it has to do with Sector 2, get a Serco character. Unless we understand what's going on, we're going to assume you're testing a new way to make 500,000c that involves passing through our flag.
Dec 17, 2003 Durgia link
Yes thank you all who did not interfer with the tests. In the future it would be nice not to have to make an armed escort for the tester tho
Dec 17, 2003 Zeplin link
ctishman, not sure if u get it, But this was not Role Play, Or anything like that. This was a certified bug test on flag inventorys. Why carnt we test this in our home sector? Gee i wonder.
Anyway just as easy to find some nice players, and comunicate with them, Ask them to explain the situation to people who are willing to help.

Considering we are ment to be bug testers prodominatly, not hard to show a little compasion for someone who is wasting there credits to test a bug. Especilly when they are /explode 'ing 25k ships to try and reproduce
Dec 17, 2003 Forum Moderator link
Kind of a hostile reply there. I don't think ctishman was implying this was role-playing, and it's clear he didn't realize it was a flag-cap issue you were testing. You didn't make that clear here until after he posted.
Dec 17, 2003 Durgia link
I can understand why he was hostile in his reply. I tried to test this bug, and was nowhere near s2 or 12 and was repeatedly killed by red players. I was offered to be let past if I payed them to test the bug.

Now its not a huge deal, but it is rather annoying and very discouraging to people trying to test when they have to ask for armed escort just to test.

BTW the gold we tested on were very willing to help. We tested on gold flag, it had nothing to do with reds.
Dec 17, 2003 Forum Moderator link
That's not okay. As stated before, this IS a test. If I witness this I may be "testing" a function I have yet to use...
Dec 17, 2003 Arolte link
I think the devs could auto-heal or make you invincible via oper commands. You should've maybe requested such protection if you wanted to test something out with them.
Dec 17, 2003 Suicidal Lemming link
Now ya see, this is a prime example why we need a REAL test server.
Dec 17, 2003 roguelazer link
yeah, let's get a real test server. Before playing, we'll have to sign an NDA. There'll be a 200 person limit on the beta. The server will only be online for 2 days after every update, and between those times all stats will be reset. Sounds like fun to me.
Dec 17, 2003 SirCamps link
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This was a certified bug test on flag inventorys.
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Yeah. Um, sure, like we'll let you test that.

1. It's irrelevant, flag capping is not going to be present in the final game.

2. If you feel that you must test it, wait until you vastly outnumber the nation you're going to test it against.

3. If there is no such time, announce that you'll test it against your own nation, switch characters, and test.
Dec 17, 2003 Suicidal Lemming link
Listen, this is a TEST, not a game, a t-e-s-t, you know, the thing where you check things if they work? Not a full out be-a-jerk community game.
Dec 17, 2003 raybondo link
Heh, yes, Durgia was testing something for me.
The server _is_ the test server. We do have an internal server for own own testing but sometimes we need large number of players for rigerous testing.

Anyways, we don't have very good testing procedures at this time, but thanks Durgia for helping.
Dec 17, 2003 The Kid link
If it occurs with flags it could happen with anything else.