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TOP GUN (active players)

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Nov 10, 2005 Dark Knight link
Actually, you'd be surprised. Toss in a bind or two to make it look like you're maneuvering, and put some kind of weight on the fire and turbo buttons, and you'd be set. Then just make another script or two to say "Arr, t'was an ambush!" at random intervals, and you'd have an automated system with all the piloting skill of genka!
Nov 10, 2005 genka link
People say I'm not that bad at dodging.
:(
Nov 10, 2005 terjekv link
actually, Genka isn't that bad at dodging. not to odd either, all that time in a bus teaches you something about getting the bleep out of dodge when you have to.

if you want a ranking, how about looking at PK / death ratios for people, and see how even horrid runners compare to people who stick it out?

http://www.math.uio.no/~terjekv/vo/pkratio.html

funny fact eh? Shape has a better PK / death ratio than SH, SH is just number 19 on that list, even with all the running. how depressing must that be? Eckala-Ha Bashor has a 6.22 PK / death ratio, plays almost every day, and over 26% of all his kills are PKs. here's a current top gun for you.

on the other hand, SH playes more these days, averaging 7 hours a day in the last week, averaging 15 PKs / day, so we see a PK from SH every half-hour when SH is online. that's pretty decent. Eckala-Ha Bashor playes a lot less (one sixth of the time or so) but also gets a PK per halfhour when he's online. Shape is pretty close to this as well (around one every 40 minutes or so), he playes about as much as Eckala. Martin is also pretty close to Shape and Eckala in these statistics. Ayn has played a little over 4 hours a day in the last week, resulting in 6 PKs, translating in one PK every four hours and 45 minutes or so. if anyone else has a strong desire to know how they're doing, let me know and I'll try to cough up some data.

hm, I could produce "highest number of PKs made this <timeslice>" or "best PK / death ratio in <timeslice>"... I might actually bother doing that if people start bugging me about this.
Nov 10, 2005 Harry Seldon link
Bravo, terjekv. :D

That's awesome...heh. 4.75 hours per kill..
Nov 11, 2005 Eldrad link
/me starts rubbing the rust off.

PS the account which the character "Space Hunter" belongs to has not posted in this thread. The account named "Space Hunter" is just an imitation.
Nov 11, 2005 jexkerome link
That's interesting data, terjekv, but to be totally fair, Ayn DID say "active" players. You should take out from there all players who haven't been seen since before Ayn has been ingame and put more currently active players to fill out that Top 20; only then will your list really compare with Ayn's, even if Ayn's has little credibility because he refuses to share his data or his method of evaluation.
Nov 11, 2005 terjekv link
well, the list does contain the day they were last online, so you can simply extract them from the list as you wish.
Nov 11, 2005 Shapenaji link
One thing in addition to Terje's stats.

Space hunter is a good pilot (whether he uses binds or not, he clearly uses them, or doesn't use them, intelligently)

However, he's a good light fighter pilot, he doesn't really know how to fly other ships.

He flies Valks or cents, that's it. Lets consider piloting ability in terms of one's ability to fly anything.

My active TOP 5 list? (not including myself)

Gavan
Eldrad (he's still around)
Niki
Martin
Nerde Verde

in no particular order. I can't even begin to rank them, and there are more I'd put on this list if I could. These are just mostly the pilots that I fear.

Other, inactive ones include (but are not limited to)

UncleDave
Phoenix
Icarus
Charlie Manson (haven't seen this guy in ages, and I don't know how I would fair against him now, I've gotten better)
Millennium Blackhawk

etc.. etc..

this is a very stylebased pvp game, putting ANYONE in a hierarchy is very tough.
Nov 11, 2005 terjekv link
pft, as Alamar I only had one style. :-p
Nov 11, 2005 Shapenaji link
Ayn. my point regarding binds, was that even if he DOES use them, he's good at it. (I don't know whether he does or not)

As for your other point, I've never seen him in either a prom or a warthog, and being the best at anything is too great a claim for anyone to make.

I'd also point out Ayn, that Space Hunter has a very bad record against me when I'm not playing around with ship layouts (aka, if I'm running advanced rails in a corvus vult against a decked out valk, I'm not expecting to win, I'm just playing),

When I fly a vulture, or a centurion with gauss or neuts, I'd say he wins 1 out of 5. Not bragging, just adding a little clarity

I have bad records against other people, too

basically, I'm saying that putting him as the Best, or anyone else for that matter, is stupid.
Nov 11, 2005 terjekv link
Nya, how do you define the best pilot then? 1 vs 1 doesn't matter, so what does? your ability to sneaking in kills in a group fight? how about your ability to assist others in a group fight?

I've flown with a lot of pilots I consider to be "damn good", but all have different skills. Shape and Gavan are unmatched on the short end of a multi. Holden and Tramshed were by far the best wingmen I've ever flown with, they both had amazing abilities to get someones attention and then set them up for you to kill. my fondest memory was doing BP with Holden, we fought against 4-5 people almost constantly, and Holden worked miracles lining people up for me. Martin is scary as hell one on one (not that the others here aren't) and his stamina in a fight is awesome. Yoda is really interesting since you never know just what to expect, he'll fly pretty much anything and go from being a rather easy pop to being almost impossible to down. he's also never afraid of going all out and risking it all, which makes fights swift, brutal and one-sided if you get the short end.

Splash has a knack for flying megaposi hogs defensivly that's quite annoying... tumble is heavily aggressive at times and when he's in the mojo he's almost as scary as Martin for your armor. that, and tumble will fly enough different ships that you never quite know what to expect layout wise. Mystic has the guts to fly a Maud and has the skills to be dangerous in it. there aren't a lot of people I would even concentrate when fighting if they flew mauds, Mystic however, no choice there. _Ghost_ seems to be slipping from the duel fights Shape set up. he can't be as scary in that Valk as I remember him being. :-p

Niki, well, fighting Niki is a study in trying to avoid overextending yourself. which you will do anyway, so you might as well can it. Eldrad is just depressing. when Eldy is warmed up (which usually means he's logged in) he has distance control like noone else. if you ever see UncleDave in a Prom, you have two tactical choices. flying back to base or being teleported back to base. the latter is actually a lot faster. =)

Nerde can be annoying as *bleep* when he's focused. luckily for us baddies he'd fly fun layouts as well, not just poppage stuff.

and of course, honorable mention goes to all of those who have the guts to go into combat with rails. :-)
Nov 11, 2005 genka link
I'd like to note that everyone has a terrible track record against me when I'm not fooling around with ship setups.
In fact, I've never been beaten in a commonly used setup.
Nov 11, 2005 Celkan link
Possibly because you never use them :P
Nov 11, 2005 genka link

Mmmm. leeching someone else's images is fun.
Nov 11, 2005 Lord Q link
i have to say speeking of "top gun" in Vendetta is prety much inposable. you can't use kill/death ratios because that rewards those who only score a few kills and then never take risks. you can't use the duel rating for obvious issues with duels, you can't count simple volume of kills because that ignores ability to survive fights...

anyway i think it all comes down to personal opinion in the end

i could agree to the original list provided SH were moved to the #5 slot and everyone else promoted acordingly (i say this because SH is the only one of the 5 who i have a good kill rate with [rail valk all the way] and since i'm not nearly a canidate for top gun...)
Nov 11, 2005 Shapenaji link
Well, there IS the weighted Kill Ratio

Pk^2/Death
Nov 11, 2005 icbm1987 link
I'd like to see awards based by ship type.

(Just because then I might have less than a ghost of a chance of making a list... but a chance nonetheless.)
Nov 11, 2005 Doukutsu link
I can't beleive people cares so much about "who the best pilot is..."
Nov 11, 2005 who? me? link
pk squared /death ?? damn thats gonna put shape at like a million
Nov 11, 2005 Lil Jon link
This thread is wiggin'.

Holla!