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Shhh!
/me waves his hand at shape in Jedi Mind trick fashion.
You've never seen the SKV bat boy.
This is not the bat boy you are looking for.
Move along.
/me waves his hand at shape in Jedi Mind trick fashion.
You've never seen the SKV bat boy.
This is not the bat boy you are looking for.
Move along.
"Jexkerome: Your comments have no grounds and it seems no point. Your opinion is ill-founded and carries no weight. Only a person who is purposely choosing to remain oblivious to the purpose and actions of SKV could imply we have turned to piracy. I have no other defence against this accusation other than to simply state it is not true. If you actually have evidence of any SKV pilot partaking in piracy, report it to me and it will be dealt with."
I've reported Niki pirating while Bojan himself was ingame at the same time, and all we got was excuses for Niki's behavior. I think Joyce has lost about five ships to him, so I do know what I'm talking about, you pompous fool. In fact, everyone knows that if Niki is on and around B-8, you're going to get attacked by him if there's no one around to keep him entertained (i.e. a SCAR member or mr_spuck). Just ask around and stop acting all righteous; it's good to be bad!
I've reported Niki pirating while Bojan himself was ingame at the same time, and all we got was excuses for Niki's behavior. I think Joyce has lost about five ships to him, so I do know what I'm talking about, you pompous fool. In fact, everyone knows that if Niki is on and around B-8, you're going to get attacked by him if there's no one around to keep him entertained (i.e. a SCAR member or mr_spuck). Just ask around and stop acting all righteous; it's good to be bad!
Niki's pirating has never been reported to me personally. I will look into it.
Your proceeding to judge an entire guild by one person's actions strikes me as a bit "pompus" in itself though. Perhaps if you didn't troll the boards so much and insult people/guilds needlessly in so many of your posts I would have given your claims more credit the first time. Namecalling tends to distract from anything you might be trying to accomplish. For example, maybe taking the "pompus fool" comment out of your post might allow me to take you more seriously. The repeated slander of SKV you have made in the past led me to be a bit skeptical. However, I will look into it.
Your proceeding to judge an entire guild by one person's actions strikes me as a bit "pompus" in itself though. Perhaps if you didn't troll the boards so much and insult people/guilds needlessly in so many of your posts I would have given your claims more credit the first time. Namecalling tends to distract from anything you might be trying to accomplish. For example, maybe taking the "pompus fool" comment out of your post might allow me to take you more seriously. The repeated slander of SKV you have made in the past led me to be a bit skeptical. However, I will look into it.
"Shhh!
/me waves his hand at shape in Jedi Mind trick fashion.
You've never seen the SKV bat boy.
This is not the bat boy you are looking for.
Move along."
look another coverup they're doing it again.
can you realy trust SKV?
-M'at
/me waves his hand at shape in Jedi Mind trick fashion.
You've never seen the SKV bat boy.
This is not the bat boy you are looking for.
Move along."
look another coverup they're doing it again.
can you realy trust SKV?
-M'at
err. as far as piracy goes, I have no problem with Niki's methods.
But if he's part of a guild that doesn't want to consider itself piratical, then I think that he should probably toe the line, just like I ask VPR's to act in the spirit of their guild and not engage in CTC.
But if he's part of a guild that doesn't want to consider itself piratical, then I think that he should probably toe the line, just like I ask VPR's to act in the spirit of their guild and not engage in CTC.
Niki pwns all!
Softy2 : member of the Niki Fan-club since 4137
Softy2 : member of the Niki Fan-club since 4137
Official statement from SKV command.
Our recent actions in unclaimed territories of Helios and Ukari were undertaken as a response to Serco military provocation and imprisonment of our war Lt. Ghost.
Our action in Helios ended with a success. Serco prison convoy was intercepted and after a long and fierce battle our comrade has been rescued and serco forces destroyed.
We can not disclose any of our further military plans to the general public.
Atm our presence in Ukari system is a matter of life or death for the whole Itani nation.
We regret any misfortunate civilian casualties and are fully prepared to offer a monetary compensation to their families.
If any civilian should encounter SKV forces on patrol in Ukari system please follow instructions given to you by our patrol to avoid any possible misunderstanding that could provoke our armed response.
End of transmission.
Our recent actions in unclaimed territories of Helios and Ukari were undertaken as a response to Serco military provocation and imprisonment of our war Lt. Ghost.
Our action in Helios ended with a success. Serco prison convoy was intercepted and after a long and fierce battle our comrade has been rescued and serco forces destroyed.
We can not disclose any of our further military plans to the general public.
Atm our presence in Ukari system is a matter of life or death for the whole Itani nation.
We regret any misfortunate civilian casualties and are fully prepared to offer a monetary compensation to their families.
If any civilian should encounter SKV forces on patrol in Ukari system please follow instructions given to you by our patrol to avoid any possible misunderstanding that could provoke our armed response.
End of transmission.
May I ask how long SKV intend to operate this blockade?
This blockade, of dubious legality, will be a severe annoyance to my legitimate business interests in and around Ukari, and I will be making representations to the UIT senate in protest.
Will SKV be offering financial compensation for the havoc they will be causing with my profit margins?
This blockade, of dubious legality, will be a severe annoyance to my legitimate business interests in and around Ukari, and I will be making representations to the UIT senate in protest.
Will SKV be offering financial compensation for the havoc they will be causing with my profit margins?
Why is it that Businessmen always make arguments of legality when faced with ethical decisions?
Neutrality is not a shield against charges of gunrunning.
Neutrality is not a shield against charges of gunrunning.
I am free to choose between aggressive warmongers who wear red, or aggressive warmongers who wear blue, I see no ethical choice.
When the Itani blockade free space and scoff at the rule of law, what seperates the Itani from the Serco, apart from their colours?
By all means continue your harrassment of the Serco, if nothing else, it's good for business. When you impede lawful UIT traders, that's bad for business.
If you want to influence the UIT, you need to talk our language, and our language is money. Itani money looks just as nice as Serco money when it's in my bank account. Equally, Itani ships burn just as brightly as Serco against the night sky.
See you in Ukari.
When the Itani blockade free space and scoff at the rule of law, what seperates the Itani from the Serco, apart from their colours?
By all means continue your harrassment of the Serco, if nothing else, it's good for business. When you impede lawful UIT traders, that's bad for business.
If you want to influence the UIT, you need to talk our language, and our language is money. Itani money looks just as nice as Serco money when it's in my bank account. Equally, Itani ships burn just as brightly as Serco against the night sky.
See you in Ukari.
Thats odd shapenaji, ghost, I dont recall there ever being a treaty banning the trade in any of the items you claim are "dangerous weapons components" Also your "ethics" apparently dont preclude your refusing to allow the same components to be transported into your own national boundaries.
There are no ethics involved here, What you are doing is a purely strategic military move, and not even a particularly bad one. Therein lies the main difference between our two people, We serco call an act of war and act of war and acknowledge when it is in our best interests to use force, which after all is the strongest form of diplomacy. You itani seem to feel an overwhelming need to try to justify your actions and play the vicitm, even though througout our history the itani have made more agressive moves than the serco have.
What i'm saying in a rathar more long winded fasion than intended is that your excuse is flimsy and your arguments of ethics pretty much a blatant rationalization for your actions, actions that (were they applied to you) would be immediately deemed the worst sort of piracy and protested in the loudest manner to the universe at large.
Your activity has been noted, and the serco will be responding, but for a group of people who so claim to detest war, it always seems to be the itani who attempt to rekindle the conflict and throw away the uneasy truce that has existed for several decades now.
There are no ethics involved here, What you are doing is a purely strategic military move, and not even a particularly bad one. Therein lies the main difference between our two people, We serco call an act of war and act of war and acknowledge when it is in our best interests to use force, which after all is the strongest form of diplomacy. You itani seem to feel an overwhelming need to try to justify your actions and play the vicitm, even though througout our history the itani have made more agressive moves than the serco have.
What i'm saying in a rathar more long winded fasion than intended is that your excuse is flimsy and your arguments of ethics pretty much a blatant rationalization for your actions, actions that (were they applied to you) would be immediately deemed the worst sort of piracy and protested in the loudest manner to the universe at large.
Your activity has been noted, and the serco will be responding, but for a group of people who so claim to detest war, it always seems to be the itani who attempt to rekindle the conflict and throw away the uneasy truce that has existed for several decades now.
jex: I'm special :P
Jex: Being stuck in the garbage hold of a Behemoth, I would think you have more pressing matters to attend to rather than worry about a blockade, since you have no business interests left to speak of.
I would ask [SKV] what their intentions are towards serco-friendly Itani freighters. How will you destroy them? L-Mines? Just curious. Itani traitors such as Shape, Calder, etc. can get through your blockades without a scratch.
I am curious as to the response from [VPR] on this issue. Technically they are present to "preserve free trade." Isn't this a problem for them? How they rule on this issue will perhaps inflluence my decision slightly.
Other than that, I'm all for it. Blockade away. I'll help out. :)
BTW nice commentary Shape. If only the boards gave us UT-style or Mortal Kombat-style feedback for decent puns, verbal jabs and debate wins. That would be great....
"LeberMac is... GODLIKE"
I would ask [SKV] what their intentions are towards serco-friendly Itani freighters. How will you destroy them? L-Mines? Just curious. Itani traitors such as Shape, Calder, etc. can get through your blockades without a scratch.
I am curious as to the response from [VPR] on this issue. Technically they are present to "preserve free trade." Isn't this a problem for them? How they rule on this issue will perhaps inflluence my decision slightly.
Other than that, I'm all for it. Blockade away. I'll help out. :)
BTW nice commentary Shape. If only the boards gave us UT-style or Mortal Kombat-style feedback for decent puns, verbal jabs and debate wins. That would be great....
"LeberMac is... GODLIKE"
wOOt! now i don't have to fly so far to shoot itanis!
/me senses aa bigger undercurrent
The blockade is not as it seems....
/me waves hand in Jedi Mind Trick fashion
The blockade is not as it seems....
/me waves hand in Jedi Mind Trick fashion
Priapus:
No, that's not what I meant
Shape is not, nor ever has been a proponent of the pseudo-Akanese philosophy of Skygg Vakter, and especially not of the isolationist metaphysics that the itani government spouts.
I happen to believe that running weapons parts of any kind is unethical. Which is (in fact) why Shape is a "pirate".
I'm not asking you to choose between Serco and Itani, I'm asking you to resist running weapons parts to anyone. If you don't believe in either side of the war, then BY ALL MEANS, stop contributing to it.
SKV's move is clearly, as Spell stated, a strategic one. But I agree with the argument that traders who run arms are complicit in the damage that those weapons cause.
No, that's not what I meant
Shape is not, nor ever has been a proponent of the pseudo-Akanese philosophy of Skygg Vakter, and especially not of the isolationist metaphysics that the itani government spouts.
I happen to believe that running weapons parts of any kind is unethical. Which is (in fact) why Shape is a "pirate".
I'm not asking you to choose between Serco and Itani, I'm asking you to resist running weapons parts to anyone. If you don't believe in either side of the war, then BY ALL MEANS, stop contributing to it.
SKV's move is clearly, as Spell stated, a strategic one. But I agree with the argument that traders who run arms are complicit in the damage that those weapons cause.
THAT"S what i've ben saying all along...
the truth is out there.
and by "out there" i mean available for sale for the astoundingly reasonable price of 3,000,000cr.
come on people, the truth befinde the blocade... the terable secret SKV doesn't want you to know about. could it involve the NSI? or the SKV bat boy? the only way to know for sure is to by the priceless recon.
-M'at
the truth is out there.
and by "out there" i mean available for sale for the astoundingly reasonable price of 3,000,000cr.
come on people, the truth befinde the blocade... the terable secret SKV doesn't want you to know about. could it involve the NSI? or the SKV bat boy? the only way to know for sure is to by the priceless recon.
-M'at
M'at is heating up!
M'at I know the reason without your info. Pay me a million credits to shut up =P
how certain are you that we have the same information?
the only way to know, is to buy my info.
-M'at
the only way to know, is to buy my info.
-M'at