fine icbm, no pie for you,

-M'at

Hold off on my guildmate for a moment would you? I've got to discuss this with him, among other things.

Well, I'm a little late on this...but

"HELP HELP i'm being repressed!!"

That's oppressed

sigh.. now we truly DO see the violence inherent in the system.

OK THEN enough monty...

I would like to take a moment to mention that SCAR does not speak for the serco nation, they even have the word renegades right in thier job title.

Despite that, the good doctor is correct in his actions towards SKV, i'd leave off the eating part myself since it's been my experience that itani taste way too much like chicken for my preferences.

You are welcome to attempt your blockade, but dont be surprised when you end up scattered all over ukari in little pieces.

(OOC now all i need to do is manage to be online when there is more than ghost around... 1v1 is nice and all, but it felt more like we'd moved B8 over a few systems)

Bojan and Ghost-

I'm sure by now you've learned that I'm planning an operation of my own. I really don't want my pilots to have to worry about fighting SKV along with their primary objective, and I doubt you want us disrupting your blockade, so perhaps we can talk in-game and negotiate.

We might even be able to come to some agreement that will achieve both of our objectives simultaneously...

We'll chat.

Dark Knight: I'll look for you ingame to speak with you.

From the desk of Seta Ralel:

This is an interesting issue... clearly one defined by the Itani/Serco wars... and we [VPR] have clearly stated that we do *not* concern ourselves with those wars.

On the other side of the coin, when "honest" traders (and trade routes, in general, for all nations) are throttled - it is the *system* that is at fault... not the individual "honest" traders - they become the scapegoats... the "collateral damage" for this type of conflict. And our existence is based on protecting the "honest" trader.

Rest assured, this action is under discussion...

It's become obvious the Union players as a whole are getting the short end of the stick in these War conflicts, regardless of their particular leanings for either side. I see the need of a nationalistic Union guild in order to defend our interest, but I also see it's gonna be next to impossible to bring out about. So let's hope VPR and TGFT move in to change something!

We are currently in negotiations with Viper and TGFT. If possible, we would be more than willing to have our operation overseen by Viper in order to make everyone sure we are not harassing traders.

then you cant ask them to stop in the middle of nowhere and have thier cargo inspected because that is disruptive of free trade and dangerous to boot.

I cant wait until shape and the rest of the pirates start floating around the edge of the system refusing to engage until you inspect a trader. That would be the perfect time for them to swoop in and kill the stationary trader and maybe snag the allready floating in space cargo as well.

I think you need to re-evaluate your definition of blockade there ghost, because if you want to enforce a blockade you WILL inconvinience and harass traders in the process, your claim that you arent trying to do that is just more itani doubletalk and rationalized hypocracy.

For the love of lady serco just grow a pair (or have some implanted, I know a few good biomodders that i could refer you to) and try to actually enforce your blockade allready. When WILL you itani learn that war is not 'nice' and cant be explained away? Ever since Akan its been the same ole story..

'we have to fight to defend ourselves from the possible serco threat'

'we have to go spy on the serco planet because we dont dare go in openly because they might be a threat'

'we got caught spying so we need to nukle the serco system to try to scare off the possible threat'

Give it a rest allready, come down off your moral high horse and just admit that you have the same racial imperative to expand and explore as the rest of the human race. Maybe then we can get a decent discussion going about how we can share the universe without our representatives having to listen to yours degrade our acceptance of the facts.

Hey... that's a good idea spell.

alright i had my fun,

the recon is no longer for sale as the points worth mentioning have been added to my original link (or rater will be once i get around to it).

there realy wasn't all that much interesting going on, except for several istences of letting serco traders go unmolested, failing to actualy escort traders to their destenation, and the ocasional apperence of collector bots. oh yea and the violent insabordination of one of the blockaders.

and they weren't very therough about checking cargo either.

the pie chart however is still going to cost you 100,000cr.

-M'at

ps. the information services of M'at's fredom co are curently suspended as my guild has taken a dislike to some of my tactics at obtaining/selling it, i hope to have thsi settled and be back to buisness as soon as is reasonable.

Cargo is only searched if the trader is headed to Serco territory. This has been previously stated in several of my other posts.

Traders are escorted providing we have the personel available at the time to do so.

well if anyone still cares the recon is up

http://homepage.mac.com/lord_q/PhotoAlbum3.html

there was actualy a lot more but this gives the gist of it

Let me tell you this your Screenies dont actually prove or tell anything....First off you was told many times to stay out but you repeatedly Jumped in and out of Ukari O-13 just to taunt us What did you gain really? Nothing....We warned you and hailed you and told you to leave but you hesitated several times.....You asked to be shot...that is your own doing....Now besides who would want to listen to you when you arent trustworthy in anything...Oh Did you forget??? You Shooting your own two guildies in B-8? Enough said..

I'll shoot M'at just to get him to spell check before he posts.
>:P

well i was going to let this thread fade into obscurity but you had to bring up your violation of the CDC charter... yes, THAT was why i shot at you and bloodthirst (being careful to only damage you, and then i covered your escape) why didi i do this becauise i had seen you both attacking somone without warning repetedly in a 2+ v 1 fight. if you recall the CDC charter says that a mamber of the CDC is only alowed to act dishonerably if upholding your personal honor jeperdises a guild job. not to mention moments before, bloodthist destroied Fullturtle Alchemist (a level 0 character in a free-bus) without provocation or warning.

additionaly, had the two of you not run home crying that you were treated soO horibly my next action was going to be to contact you both and discuss the events and attempt to come to a reasonable settlement (one that allowed you to continue having your fun in B-8 while not tarnishing the honor of the CDC).

you have to take my word on that last point because rather than discuss, or petition my dismissal from CDC you both left. our only online LT didn't even know what hapened untill i explained it to him...

so which of us is realy the in the wrong? probably all of us on some level. but don't pretend to be a saint yourself.

as for my recon not proving anything:
well it is what i advertised. information about the blockade that is not made up, and does cast some doubt on the public reports from Ghost. i never said ther was anything sinister (i inplied it yes, but how many advertisments are truely honest anyway?) besides i'm just having some fun and adding drama to this litle RP stunt of yours. and by the way you guys did egg me on, like all trouble makes if you ignored me i'd have gotten bored and gone away.

as for my honesty: I have never broken my word in game, nore have i been unwilling to take responsibility for my actions. i say let anyone bring up anything that i have done, and i will explain why i did it. you may not agree with my reasons but that doesn't make me dishonest.

-M'at

(mesgage preefread)

LOL CDC code?? What CDC code? First have you not seen the person who we was attacking was Space Hunter....And everyone knows about his acts....Now if you knew this has been going on why didnt you bring it up in the guild?????? Thats my question...So thinking you could be all so mighty decide to shoot us doesnt justify your action in any case at all....Thus Far you have broken many rules yourself If I am correct...Sticking your nose where it actually doesnt belong...And what is this Honor you speak of?? What Honor did you have by shooting us?? before thinking of your own actions?...Besides to be honest CDC fell apart once Monk left...Thats right it did...And oh by way...You was barely even on...What like once every two weeks...What did you know as to what was happening...Fullturtle Alchemist had passage from when I was on with other and several times...As for Bloodthirst attacking him we will question that....And I never said I was saint...Our LT knew what had happened Because we and Bloodthirst did speak about it...Now the question is does any of those member still in your so called CDC?? Yes I did leave because there was several other incidents before hand needed to be looked at...

Now Back to this little game of yours did you not forget that you have Spoken to Bojan that you will not come through Ukari O-13 and cause problems? And yet you continued that today aswell...Now you told Ghost the same thing we shall see how long you go with your word...

1: i'm refering to a time when bloodthirst killed FTA on the same day as the Space Hunter Incedent.

2: i was aware of the SH situation, and for a long time i cut a lot of latatude for those who attacked him because of the (revenge on those who dishonored you) clause of the code. that day i had had enough of the disrespect.

3. i loged on when i could, sorry for having a life oustide of VO.

4. the CDC has had a code of honor since the beginning, if you were ignorant of it than i say that speeks to your chracaater beter than anything i could say here.

5. "Sticking your nose where it actually doesnt belong" by this i assume you mean Ukari? last time i checked L-2 was UIT teratory not Itani teratory, and the system as a whole is uncliamed. not to meantion it's my stomping grounds, i had every right to be there.

6. i told Bojan i would as a curtesy of my own free will avoid the blockaed sector for an unspecified period of time time (i ment this to be a temporary arangment as a coutesy and a show of good will that i was respecting diplomatic chanels) recently i gave my word that i would avoid Ukari all together because Ghost threatened to take military action against my guild. because i have given my word on that i will keep it.

finaly, i would like to point out that by exercising my rights to travel and free speach (i have made no accusations without proof) i have been repressed, attacked repetedly, slandered, and had military threats against my guild (who were not involved in ANY of the list of grevences i have receved). (i have proof of some of those) but see no need to further snowball this issue.

i have made several attempts to settle this diplomaticly (my origian contact was as a buisnessman, the white buss of peace, and the conversation with Bojan), once again i intend to make no further posts, unless i am again forced to correct misunderstandings, and explain events and actions.

-M'at

disclamer: M'at's freedom co is not affiliated with [CDC]

This whole blockade thing is annoying.

If only there weren't so many damn tanis. Like... stupid backstory!!!