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May 04, 2010 vskye link
This looks like a good idea, minus the current duration of time it works. Bump up the drain so it only lasts 10-15 secs, then it's a +1.
May 05, 2010 Maalik link
You still haven't posted how many hours it would take to accumulate the bot drops. I can't say that I'm a fan of devices that can only be sanely deployed by those with copious resources.
May 05, 2010 Lord~spidey link
i like this very much.

should be a turret weapon tho to make it a two man operation and make it heavy so the ship that preventing WH jumps needs escorts and stuffs to defend it
May 05, 2010 Aticephyr link
You still haven't posted how many hours it would take to accumulate the bot drops. I can't say that I'm a fan of devices that can only be sanely deployed by those with copious resources.

As a general principal I agree... however, this kinda thing should be rare for the sanity of the verse. Plus, player-run economies require demand, and I'd love to see more demand for these kinds of drops.
May 05, 2010 Alloh link
+1 to Spidey's idea

Make the super-uber-mega-weapons requires 2 players to operate, making it a turret.

Why not make it also possible to open a random unstable WH with same gun? Engage, dig hole, cross and discover where you are. Short lived one, as unstable suggests.

If it has power enough to close a stable wormhole, should also be enough to open a new one.
May 05, 2010 Aticephyr link
should be a turret weapon tho to make it a two man operation and make it heavy so the ship that preventing WH jumps needs escorts and stuffs to defend it

It's a bitch enough to create in its current form that I wouldn't want to nerf it further... not to mention that the very creation of the thing will require at least 3 people working in concert to get the levi core.

Why not make it also possible to open a random unstable WH with same gun? Engage, dig hole, cross and discover where you are. Short lived one, as unstable suggests.

Out! Out! Get out of my thread! Interesting idea... but that's a hot one, go give it it's own thread :).

And I just saw Maalik's quote: Why not have them made at conquerable stations?

Because right now there is absolutely no reason to get +800 at Valent, so I was giving them some love. Conquerable stations could use love too, though, but the RP (storyline wise, not player wise) there has less potential.
May 05, 2010 Alloh link
Why own post if the idea is same gun, when shot on WH close it. When shot in empty space open a WH???

It is not another weapon, its another usage for same weapon proposed...

And since it requires 3 pplz to build, and you already gathered them, 2 can operate it, and make very clear this isn't a normal gun.
May 05, 2010 Aticephyr link
it's already clear Alloh that it isn't a normal gun, as it doesn't do normal things...

as for the ability to open a wormhole, I don't believe one device should have that kinda power. so... go make your own thread, and don't hijack this one :p.
May 05, 2010 ryan reign link
Be fair Atice... Alloh doesn't hijack threads! Just ask him, he'll tell you he doesn't!

Anyways, I still like the idea but still think it should be a one to three shot rocket deal (Lport) or maybe even take multiple ports... though I'm not sure how hard that would be.
May 05, 2010 yodaofborg link
I like the overall idea, but it's never going to happen as long as there are people like me playing VO. Imagine a group of me's sitting in a newb system effectivly cutting off access beyond said system? I'm sure that making the newbs not able to leave Dau or Itan would piss them off more than just poppin em, I could even use the faction system to my advantage. Several *bad* scenarios pop to mind, like making people KOS because if they don't kill me's they cannot leave the system.
May 05, 2010 ryan reign link
Valid concerns Yoda, maybe there is a way the devs could make the device not function on capitol systems? or restrict it to nation borders/grey space?
May 05, 2010 yodaofborg link
Hmm, maybe if you are in nation space, triggering the device should set you temp KOS to the local faction, just like violating the NFZ. Still gives a short window for abuse, but yeah, not as much.
May 05, 2010 Dr. Lecter link
Yoda, stop pointing out what we're going to do ahead of time. It's a lot more fun if they have to figure it out after we've done it for a while :P
May 05, 2010 Maalik link
Valent faction is going to be mutually exclusive with something else, I think, so it is a little awkward to give something super special to them. But whatever.

Atice, rarity in this case means the device exists but the people who you'd expect to want to use it, like CHRN, wouldn't bother with the very long and mind numbing grind. Maybe that's what you want..
May 05, 2010 yodaofborg link
Sorry Doc, I forgot to take my medicine ;)

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They are prolly going to be against Axia, and maybe Biocom, I do not see that being an issue, but maybe Xang-Xi should make em? Makes more sense.

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Atice wants this to cut off pirate escape routes too I think, do not be so single minded.

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This aint gunna happen so yah, I wont pull punches.

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Axia have AAP? So give something special to Axia but not Valent? Read ingame stories before you try rp crap maal ;)
May 05, 2010 Aticephyr link
I like the overall idea, but it's never going to happen as long as there are people like me playing VO. Imagine a group of me's sitting in a newb system effectivly cutting off access beyond said system? I'm sure that making the newbs not able to leave Dau or Itan would piss them off more than just poppin em, I could even use the faction system to my advantage. Several *bad* scenarios pop to mind, like making people KOS because if they don't kill me's they cannot leave the system.

Heh. If NPCs make you KOS for using it, I figure factions would make you KOS for using it as well... at which point it'd be difficult for a few of you to keep the WH locked down for that long with Arena seekers coming after you and your seriously expensive device.

Valent faction is going to be mutually exclusive with something else, I think, so it is a little awkward to give something super special to them. But whatever.

If that's the case, I'm sure the dev's will deal with it appropriately. Hell, just because I suggested it doesn't mean that's the way it will be implemented.

Atice, rarity in this case means the device exists but the people who you'd expect to want to use it, like CHRN, wouldn't bother with the very long and mind numbing grind. Maybe that's what you want..

I really, really don't expect you to grind at all. I expect you to either pay someone else to grind (and I think there are plenty of people who would sell to you or one of your alts), or kill someone who just did the grind and take his bootie. You don't need to do everything yourself in VO.

Moreover, killing one levi and a few queens isn't THAT mind-numbing. Honestly, it's sorta fun. The original list would have been damned mind-numbing, this one isn't too bad given it's potential.

This aint gunna happen so yah, I wont pull punches.

It might. Just not for awhile. No way this happens in the near future though.

Atice wants this to cut off pirate escape routes too I think

Oh hell yes I do.
May 05, 2010 yodaofborg link
It's only expensive due to time, and you only have to look at ecka's bank to see what time can do for a person :P
May 05, 2010 Aticephyr link
Doesn't change the point though. And if you are willing to keep on losing the device which takes large amount of time or credits to create... I don't see why you wouldn't be able to cause just a little chaos.
May 05, 2010 yodaofborg link
True
May 05, 2010 Maalik link
Atice: Hahahahaha, you would have to kill many many leviathans and many many queens to get the desired drops. The drop rates on those things are quite low. (Unless they've changed it recently?)

And grinding for credits is no more fun than grinding for bot drops.

Yoda: I said 'super special' not 'special', for a reason. Though, I don't really think it's a big deal. Also I didn't say that CHRN would be the only people who wanted to use it. I just meant that it should be accessible enough to groups like CHRN..