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Corvus Ultra Positron Blaster

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Jul 31, 2016 Dr. Lecter link
License: 8/8/-/-/- & +950 Corvus & -900 each Itani, Serco, UIT

Damage: 1000
Velocity: 195m/s
Energy: 12/blast
Delay: 0.3s
Grid Usage: 18
Mass: 500 kg
Volume as cargo: 1 cu
Good Targeting
Sold: Odia M-14
Price: 50,000
Small port

Hound-focused Mega Posi substitute
Jul 31, 2016 joylessjoker link
What's the point? There's corvus widowmaker, which is roughly as good as this. Oh, you want to avoid needing to do the manufacturing mission? You're such a lazy sloth.
Jul 31, 2016 Mi5 link
+1
Jul 31, 2016 Dr. Lecter link
DPE is the name of the game. I'm indifferent to making it manufacturable.
Aug 01, 2016 Kierky link
+1
Aug 01, 2016 Faille Corvelle link
-1 due to the (still) ridiculous negative standing requirement. Don't you get it? No one is gonna go "these people don't hate you, so we won't sell you stuff"

The constant requests for hate (or more commonly Tri-Hate) is bloody stupid! Just cos Corvus are not legit doesn't mean they would demand hate standing from ANYONE before selling you stuff.
Aug 01, 2016 meridian link
Lower the velocity to 200m/s (compare Megaposi is 205, small port positron is 190).

The delay of 0.2s is a farce since the internal limits of the engine are going to make it 0.256s anyway.

I think the idea here is to make the weapon exclusively purchasable from pirate stations, which don't exist in the game yet. So the standing requirement is just a stopgap measure until pirate stations (e.g. roaming pirate capship) do exist, which would presumably have a similar requirement in order to dock there.

The stats are a bit OP, so I see the restricted access as a good thing, making it only available in a niche role.
Aug 01, 2016 Faille Corvelle link
Corvus is NOT a damn Pirate faction! If it needs restricting, restrict to HIGH CORVUS standing, not retarded Tri-KoS.
Aug 01, 2016 abortretryfail link
-1 to OP
You asked for the stupid port nerf. It's your bed, now sleep in it. Try using the Widowmaker like joylessjoker suggested.
Aug 01, 2016 Dr. Lecter link
You asked for the stupid port nerf.

Hey Inc., what was it you said again? Oh, yeah:

We have generic ports, they are a reality. Why not stay within the mechanics of what we already have, to try and resolve the issue that is being raised. For instance, what if the L-port was made into a S-port, and whatever particular addon was intended for the L-port maybe had a nerfed S-port variant of it created?

https://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/3/30963#371762

Corvus is NOT a damn Pirate faction! If it needs restricting, restrict to HIGH CORVUS standing, not retarded Tri-KoS.

https://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/3/31664#379673
https://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/3/31664#379712
Aug 01, 2016 Mi5 link
I wonder when people will understand pirates/grey is the lack of nation or faction and the only reason people assume corvus is because there's nothing else.
Aug 01, 2016 joylessjoker link
DPE is the name of the game.

Do you realize that CWM has a higher DPE than mega posis? Can you please point out what your new weapon would provide that CWM doesn't already?
Aug 01, 2016 Dr. Lecter link
Excellent point, Joyless. I'll tweak accordingly.
Aug 02, 2016 Xeha link
-1
Aug 02, 2016 Faille Corvelle link
OK, so we don't have actual pirate stations. Even if we did, I would maintain that requiring hate/KoS standing is dumb. If you were a pirate, would you ONLY sell to other "criminals", or to anyone with the green to pay you? Where is the logic behind a hate/KoS requirement?

I could understand needing a high standing with the "pirate" faction, and even that that standing may be mutually exclusive with one or more other factions, but the actual hate/kos requirement is still just dumb.

I would even support the idea that UIT (or more likely, one or more sub-factions within the UIT) might not like those that are friendly with Corvus, but that's NOT what you are asking for here.
Aug 02, 2016 Nick_9137 link
-1
Aug 02, 2016 vskye link
+1
Aug 02, 2016 Pizzasgood link
"I could understand needing a high standing with the "pirate" faction, and even that that standing may be mutually exclusive with one or more other factions, but the actual hate/kos requirement is still just dumb."

If you have two mutually exclusive factions and a requirement to have high standing with one, that will naturally entail bad standing with the other -- hated standing if the exclusivity is strong enough. Unfortunately, we do not currently have a pirate faction, and for technical reasons it is not possible to make Corvus mutually exclusive. Therefor, we sometimes propose hated requirements to provide that exclusion without having to interfere with Corvus's use as a fallback spawn location.

Perhaps it would be more natural to propose that buying such items would impose a faction penalty with your home nation, rather than having buying the items be dependent on having that poor standing. Better yet would be for the penalty to only happen when caught using the equipment, e.g. a UIT station guard or border turret spotting you flying around in a Greyhound would report that to the authorities and you'd be docked standing. (This could also work for flying ships you're not "supposed" to have access to, such as UITs in Valks within Itani space, if player-to-player ship trade was added.)

But that would require the devs to add new mechanics, whereas requiring a hated status does not. So, requiring hate makes sense as a temporary workaround until something more reasonable can be implemented.
Aug 02, 2016 Dr. Lecter link


Also: Where is the logic behind a hate/KoS requirement?

The same logic driving faction exclusivity: this is a game, and part of balance is ensuring that choices have consequences. Making anything particularly piratical available to "anyone with green" results in the same people who once had an entire wall of PoS standing bars flying Hounds because they're convenient. The same ridiculousness once caused Serco to fly Valks 90% of the time, and Itani to jump in SCPs any time they were losing 1v1s.

Rin's solution of making purchase freely available but detection of possession/use punishable by massive standing consequences is nicer from an RP perspective. But we're working with serious Dev time constraints here.
Aug 02, 2016 look... no hands link
Sometimes good enough is better then best. I see no reason why a temporary workaround has to be permanent.