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Is the *press yourself 0m to an object* ever going to be fixed?

May 05, 2005 yodaofborg link
Or is it a feature?

IE : press yourself 0m to a roid all bots go daft

IE : Botcrack

IE : Press yourself into a part of a station.

?
May 05, 2005 sarahanne link
This feature is known as the poor man's stealth. If you ever wanted a cloaking device in VO all you have to do is hug a large object and you blend in like a chameleon.
May 05, 2005 yodaofborg link
Kewl, expect to see me in a docking bay near YOU soon!

(and if the strikeforce kill you for attcking me, neat, its a feature!)
May 06, 2005 a1k0n link
yeah, actually I was gonna fix this before the next release.
May 07, 2005 terjekv link
the 0m thing will make mining more of a group effort, this is good! thankie!
May 07, 2005 Suicidal Lemming link
Yes, fix the stupid pathfinding has always been on the list of things to-do.
May 09, 2005 Apex link
Just as long as the next release has more entertaining ways to gain combat xp. killing bots is annoying enough when you're crack botting.. I don't wanna think about how abnoxious it would be to do without that exploit.
May 09, 2005 yodaofborg link
It can actually be fun, i remember a time when i charged for botting other peoples levels up a bit (ie, i was botting for standing, so i created a /group, and charged those that were not as good to bot some levels for them)

Im sure they can confirm i usually bot in Initros k12 and can kill bots faster than botcracking.

Simple reason is? I know how to bot, have you read this?

http://design.vendetta-online.com/wiki/index.php?title=Hive

What the hell are crackbotters supposed to do when bots are not so dumb anymore? crackbot all you like, i wont even bother getting free pk's - but tedious or not, botting is a skill, not an exploit.
May 09, 2005 a1k0n link
Well, I just messed around with it.. It's actually pretty fun, but really hard. You end up chasing bots around through the cracks and holes in the asteroids. The best strategy seems to try to back them up so they're against a wall and can't maneuver around as much. You can still hide waaaaay back inside a crack and they can't reach you in there but they will shoot at you once they finally see you.

So yeah, they're slightly less dumb. We'll see how this goes.
May 10, 2005 Starfisher link
yoda, I want to smoke whatever you're smoking. Killing bots is such a repetitive task that it became a chore I had to force myself to do. Crackbotting was a gift from the gods. I'm glad I don't have to go through that again.

Iopefully some new missions will come that give combat xp for more interesting activities.
May 13, 2005 yodaofborg link
And crackbotting isnt just as boring? OMG, i did try it... ... I found actually botting sometimes better... like me in Initros, theres a sector, tycorp only, no roids inrange, its just die bots, I actually used to have a nice (and at least its a lil RP) scheme going on where I botted for others, by them joining my group, this has been killed dead with the wide open knowledge of botcracks. Hey, it was a reason to use /group, what other do we have? and gave me a chance to show off to new players...

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Im confused to your above statement a1k0n, do you mean the fix is already implimented? Because crackbotting is still very possible, and i know not all updates require a download...

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One fix would just to be the normal *set* of bots attack you, this would make it much less of an exploit, and would make it so much harder for those looking for free player kills. Currently, when pressed against any object at 0m, the bots that should attack you think your in limbo, and then the next set target you, and so on. Does that statement make sense only to me?
May 14, 2005 Starfisher link
It was faster, and actually slightly more satisfying than an endless strafe, kill, strafe, kill. Big booms!
May 14, 2005 Renegade ++RIP++ link
Hey, I do strafe roll roll strafe strafe roll kill strafe strafe roll kill roll kill strafe strafe strafe strafe kill roll roll kill...

I however agree that botting in itself is boring, but mostly becasue there isn't really an incentive to bot and because of the monotonousity of the action.

But im sure once there are some actualt reasons for botting like protecting a group of traders, exterminating a hivequeen annoying our traders, heck doing a raid on the itani because they are annoying us...

That is the stuff that I will expect to go along with botting and not this mindless heya pilot kill x, cool you did it now kill the same bots again. Wow again cool now do it once more again and you know what after it you can do it again and again and again... but it is prolly only me :(
May 14, 2005 kihjin link
Along with the new Hive, perhaps the longer a bot remains alive, the 'smarter' it becomes (and actually levels up)....
May 16, 2005 a1k0n link
Try it now.