Im at -1000 itani, you could go to Deneb to get your standing back by killing hive bots, there is not bots, do i stay at -1000 , Because if i go pasted a itani station to go thru a worm hole , a strike force goes after you? Where do you go????

Well, if you can run past the station guards and strike force at the wormholes, and make it to an unmonitored sector with bots, if you bot long enough, you can get your Itani standing back up. Go find some artemis collectors and kill them in *unmonitored* itani space.

Now you know how the Itani must feel. They have to sneak through Serco stations when they want to get their Serco faction up, and the Serco could just fly into Deneb without any challenge at all. Now that the Deneb bots have been removed (along with one of my favourite botting spots), The Serco now have the same challenge of sneaking through a station to bot.

I forget why I need to alter my -1000 serco standing. Is there something I am missing?

actually, getting your Serco standing up if you're Itani isn't very hard. The Serco station on the Geira Rutilus side of the wormhole is pretty far away from the hole itself, so there's ample time to turn away to deep space, and boost while the strikeforces struggle to catch up. Then just make a bunch of jumps through empty sectors and head off to wherever you want to bot. Not quite as easy as the Serco, but still, wasn't too hard for me when I did it.

But now, the serco have to go through a wormhole guarded on the departure side, and not the destination, which almost certainly forces them to pass by the station at some point, so they're headed towards the strike forces, making it somewhat harder to get past.

OK, this is something that has bothered me for a while. What is the difference between unmonitored, monitored, and guarded space? My assumption was killing Hive Bots only increased your standing in monitored space (with the exception of Deneb, all bot sectors in the nations are monitored), which would mean that botting in Deneb should not give Itani standing. Which I think should be the case, as the Deneb->Geira Rutilus WH is unmonitored & unguarded, and Serco can enter Deneb freely.

But I have heard a couple times that botting in Deneb does give Itani standing. I don't think it should.

For the original question, you just have to dodge the strike force & jump a couple empty sectors, it's surprisingly easy. Quick correction for Harry Seldon, though, you don't have to bot in unmonitored space. Like I said above, Deneb is the only system in nation space that has unmonitored bot sectors.

I think monitored space won't get strike forces sent at you, but you will lose standing. Guarded is guarded. Unmonitored is unmonitored.

@CP: That's not much help. I know guarded is guarded, and unmonitored is unmonitored, I'd just like it spelled out what that means. And actually, in some monitored sectors (such as monitored WHs without stations), you WILL get a strike force sent after you (they just take a while to get there). So that's not the difference between guarded & monitored. The only guarded sectors are stations, so maybe guarded means there's guard ships (the station guards) always on patrol.

Also, I was more concerned about where you gain standing for killing hive bots, than about where you lose standing for killing faction ships. Since every hive bot sector in nation space except Deneb was monitored, I thought monitored space meant you would gain standing for killing hive bots there, which would mean you wouldn't gain standing for botting in Deneb, which IMO should be the case.

Personally, I'm interested in finding out if this will change once the bots change from an ever-present threat in fields to the dynamic occupation of the Hive system. If the bots are to become a far more significant threat, will the faction gains become greater? and what about the Queens, who at the moment give no faction standing (that I know of)?

Sneaking inside enemy territory to gain faction by botting is not hard, you simply have to find the best way to avoid and lose the SFs and you're home free unless you enter a station or monitored WH sector.