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KILL THE FLIPPIN UBBOTS!

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Jun 21, 2006 KixKizzle link
We're tired of them.
They shoot w/o hailing.
They don't grab cargo.
They attack you then disengage to run off after some stupid ninny.
They interrupt duels.
They aren't even pirates.
If they killed me and looted me then FINE I DON'T CARE!!!!!
But they're just ruining PVP.
Everyone hates them.

Turn them off.

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Judging by the title, you can see I'm stressed out.
ubbots = unbots.
They're in Latos too Jexie.
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Jun 22, 2006 thurisaz link
..naw, go sic the ubbots on the unbots, and leave us out of it... give em Avalons, too, so we can watch the pretty explosions as two NPC teams party like it was 2003 all over again.... both of them completely ignoring us (mostly) harmless players...

:@ {-
Jun 22, 2006 tumblemonster link
I like the unbots. I agree they deffinately need to start acting like pirates, but getting rid of them is not the answer.
Jun 22, 2006 jexkerome link
Stop whining, Kix. They are fine; go play in Latos with yoda and the rest of us, and leave greyspace to the REAL reavers, the unbots.
Jun 22, 2006 Phaserlight link
"Everyone"...? Then you forgot to count me.

Dude... grey space is supposed to be dangerous. D.a.n.g.e.r.o.u.s.

Do you really want VO to remain an eternal FFA in B8? That wasn't the vision the devs had in mind. Instead of simply asking the unbots to be removed, how about some constructive suggestions as to how they could be improved?

I think it is awesome that we finally have some tough ai to fight against, and that there are now some real threats in greyspace. It's not a playground out there... it's a place to be continuously watching your back.
Jun 22, 2006 GRAIG link
NO leave them there . they're cool !
But us, players, could easyly form groups to hunt them from time to time.

OR (just for the while we're waiting till they get improved) we should have some friend bots that spawn only when a player enters a sector and fight them for us.

But really I like them, and most of us do, even if they're annoying...
Jun 22, 2006 yodaofborg link
Kix, the only time they appear in Latos H2 is when they are chasing a voy, they DO NOT stop in Latos h2 to shoot players... I suspect the same is true of Latos O-12 but I do not hang in Latos O-12. Like you said before they nerfed the IBG's, STFU newbs, and adapt! Sedina B-8 NEVER was meant to be the center of the flipping universe, and nor was consentual PVP, I wish all ye n00bs would stop whining, its enough to make one not bother reading the forums anymore, its all I flipping see.
Jun 22, 2006 KixKizzle link
Phaser,
"Dude... grey space is supposed to be dangerous. D.a.n.g.e.r.o.u.s."

That's fine. I don't mind it being dangerous, but when the only time I die is from a bot shooting me in the back for no warranted reason then it gets annoying.
I mean if they're gonna be pirates then make em pirates!
Steal my dang cargo.
But no.
Your just a worthless bot.

GRAIG,
Hunt them down?
They show up like every 5-10 minutes.
I mean if a swarm of a hundred came every hour that'd be great.
But its like every time you turn around they're pestering you.
You search and destroy every last one of them only to have a moments peace and forget they exist before the next round show up.

I don't believe anything in this universe should be magical.
All bots should take resources to make, and bots to carry those resources to stations.
That way, I can actually destroy the unbots by attacking at the root of the problem.
As it is, they're just impossible to rid of because they'll always come back.

Yoda,
Everyone goes to b8.
Not Latos.
If everyone wants to decide to all go to Latos that's kool.
But I check that out everytime I log on and there's rarely more than 1 person there.
And yea I guess I'm a noob then because I don't like being shot up the butt w/ flare hogs.
Jun 22, 2006 Ion link
Hmm, you don't seem to have much support fer your idea, Kix. I guess the "everyone" was a wee bit of a hyperbole... Personally, I love the unbots, although I do agree they could be modified a bit. Not to be easier, but perhaps a bit more focused.
Jun 22, 2006 Phaserlight link
Re: Kix

So correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds like you are suggesting two modifications to the unbots:

A) Have them steal cargo after a kill

and

B) Make it possible to clear a sector of unbots for a decent amount of time.

The resource thing sounds like a good idea, probably requiring a balanced dynamic economy. In the meantime, if unbots keep getting killed in a certain sector, perhaps their AI could be modified so that they preferrentially avoid that sector for a while? Conversely, if the unbots keep getting easy kills with big cargo payoffs in a certain sector, it makes sense that they would increase activity in that sector.

I agree it would also be pretty cool to watch them claim the benefits of their kill and bring it back to whatever station/cap ship they hail from.

Irregardless, I am 99% sure that the unbots we are seeing now are not in their final manifestation. Hopefully smarter ones will be showing up in the future. This is just the first step, and it's in the right direction if you ask me.
Jun 22, 2006 jexkerome link
Kix forgot to complete his sentence, is all. He didn't mean "everyone hates them", he meant "Everyone who's a crybaby hates them". Most people are fine with them, you just have to be prepared, and now that you rarely or never see 20 of them hanging close to the wh, and thus you don't die in the warp animation (at least hasn't happened to me again in ages) I think they are just perfect.

Plus, nowhere ingame does it say they're pirates. Consider them NPC versions of Ayn or Mad Dog, without the running, and you're set.
Jun 22, 2006 Seton-Ro link
Aye, I'm with you till the end on this one Kix! A real pirate can't even pirate in the middle of pirate space because of these so called 'pirates'. They piss me off too.
Jun 22, 2006 incarnate link
We can look at making them hail in the near future. I'm not sure about collecting cargo though. Andy is out of town right now, I just got back into town, and I have a ton of UI stuff to do (I know the UI isn't the most popular thing to be working on, but we need to market the game). The UnBots are going to be improved, none of us want them to be stupid things jumping you for no reason.. they're already tied into the missions and we intend to tie them into other things as well.

That said, Sedina B8 is not a good place to safely congregate. There are like 7,679 other, better places to do that.
Jun 22, 2006 softy2 link
But you can't go into sun sectors!
Jun 22, 2006 incarnate link
That's true. Ok, there are at least 7,600 other sectors that could be better for safe congregation. Happy?
Jun 23, 2006 moldyman link
"A person is smart, people are stupid"

I may know that. Softy may know that. Jex may know that. The populace of VO refuses to acknowledge that as a whole and instead, whines. Just move from B-8 like people have been trying for ages. It's a crappy arena, anyway.
Jun 23, 2006 softy2 link
Weeee. Do I get a prize?
Jun 23, 2006 tumblemonster link
You can manually navigate to sun sectors....
Jun 23, 2006 jexkerome link
What, again?

/me goes touring into the Divinia sun
Jun 23, 2006 UncleDave link
well, i don't see why they would attack an IBG or SCP if they're supposed to be pirates.

ideally, they'd group in 2s and 3s, scrap among each other a bit, and go after ships with large holds.