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Really Sieger?

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Oct 06, 2015 tarenty link
You can watch the count rise live: https://www.vendetta-online.com/x/stats/249101/
Oct 06, 2015 greenwall link
don't worry Tarenty -- we will all remember you were the first one to legitimately reach 10,000.
Oct 06, 2015 tarenty link
I don't care about that - I don't even play anymore. What disappoints me is that people are more concerned with finding exploits and scandals and propaganda than just having a good time. It's just a game.
Oct 06, 2015 jordanmorgan14f link
You all are really some salty bastards aren't you?

Going to Walmart to get some confetti for when Sieger reaches 10k.
Oct 06, 2015 bojansplash link
Judging by the speed he is pk farming alts atm, I give him an hour to reach 10000 pks.
Oct 06, 2015 yodaofborg link
Still not as much as me! When he hits 50k give me a wake up call.
Oct 06, 2015 Kierky link
What disappoints me is that people are more concerned with finding exploits and scandals and propaganda than just having a good time. It's just a game.

What disappoints me is that people use exploits to try and make some people's efforts in the game redundant, and for their own gain.
Oct 06, 2015 yodaofborg link
And do not forget that Sieger trys to take others gains away from them! I bet Sieger cannot comment on anything that didn't actually happen in Alpha! I should submit a support ticket to get his badges [redacted]. I am sure I can.

Why he wants them is childish, and him pretending to be from that time is way worse than a PK count to me.
Oct 06, 2015 Savet link
Going to Walmart to get some confetti for when Sieger reaches 10k.

In a completely unrelated series of events, I happen to have approximately 10 lbs of confetti and glitter sitting in storage unused.
Oct 06, 2015 greenwall link
What disappoints me is that people use exploits to try and make some people's efforts in the game redundant, and for their own gain.

You mean like hiding in an asteroid to act as an ever-present, unlocatable, and NPC-resistant spotter to counter people's attempts to take a station from you?

Or do you mean like exploiting the faction system to get unsuspecting newbs killed / tanked in nation space for entertainment and pk-farming?

Or do you mean like rallying an abusive /vote mute campaign against people you disagree with from IRC?

There's plenty of other exploits that fit your description which have been taken advantage of by you personally or your own allies and you didn't put up a stink about it.
Oct 06, 2015 Ore link
"What disappoints me is that people are more concerned with finding exploits and scandals and propaganda than just having a good time. It's just a game."

Brought to you by Lua. Whoop whoop!
How fucked would you fools be without all this handy code you keep hidden? PRETTY FUCKED.

Many complaints can be directly linked to someone's lua scripts but that's the elephant in the room. We need more threads like this!
Oct 06, 2015 bojansplash link
After 2500 pks farmed yesterday, starting count today:



after 1 hour and 20 min:



Only 321 farmed pk, Sieger is slacking.....
Oct 06, 2015 Ore link
Keirky you better fire up your bot launcher before Sieger gets a big jump on you!
Oct 06, 2015 greenwall link
lol ^ what he said
Oct 06, 2015 Savet link
Just for a running list of antics, we have:

1. Sieger exploiting the character nation change by the devs to bypass faction ship limitations, resulting in drastic limitation for nation changes for all payers.

2. TGFT mass spying debacle through a public plugin surreptitiously collecting private player data and transmitting it to TGFT for sector spying.

3. TGFT vote mute campaigns resulting in punitive actions for a large chunk of TGFT.

4. TGFT multi-account station bombing to offset their general lack of conquest ability.

5. Sieger's PK farming racking up about 3,000 PKs, in what appears to be an effort to place him among the ranks of long-time PVP greats.

Can TGFT just stop being horrible VO citizens and try playing the game in the way the game is meant to be played?
Oct 06, 2015 greenwall link
Savet, it's "Sieger".
Oct 06, 2015 Savet link
Sorry, fixed.
Oct 06, 2015 SkinWalker link
I remember when sieger first started. And it wasn't that long ago. He *pretends* to be a long-time vet, but has only been here a few years. He signed up 2011 +/- a year. Any account he has with a date prior to that was someone else's before then.
Oct 06, 2015 Roda Slane link
Testing a plugin is a terrible excuse for racking up thousands of effortless pk counts. As pointed out by others, the test server would be a more appropriate place for such testing. I can not even imagine what plugin would need to be tested in this way, much less why it could not be tested on the test server.

I can see where a new character could stand a few dozen freebie kills to quickly gain combat 3, an ec-107, or even advanced rails, but beyond that, I looks like artificially altering stats.

The faults of the witness do not excuse the faults of the accused. If we wish to make this a tattle tell thread, fine, but let us not pretend that one indiscretion justifies yet another.

I killed pa (noobs), itan (more noobs), clm (stupid noobs), etc... by the thousands. I killed afk miners, and I type killed more idiots than I can count. I am guilty of the lamest of lame pks. But all my pks are mine. I earned them by killing other players.

My pk count means something to me, because I know what I did to earn it. You know what you did to earn it, and that is how much it will be worth to you.

The indiscretion has been pointed out. I do not see any way it can be justified, or excused. But it is not a functional indiscretion. It is not like stealing credits or using an autofire plugin for pvp. Keep it in context.

It is what it is. Don't make it out to be more. Don't make it out to be less. Don't excuse it by the indiscretions of others. Don't discredit the accounting of it because of the faults of the witness, unless those faults bring into question the accuracy of the accounting itself.

Let accounting of indiscretions be an example of what not to do, or in the least, a warning of what might be done by some.

I now believe that the pk count of some players is a worthless statistic, and that may be the limit of what might be usefully gained by this thread.
Oct 06, 2015 greenwall link
I now believe that the pk count of some players is a worthless statistic, and that may be the limit of what might be usefully gained by this thread.

This ^. And it's not the first stat this has happened to, nor will it be the last. Welcome to VO.