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Oct 07, 2015 VikingRanger link
"Let he who has no sin throw the first stone" -Jesus Christ
Oct 07, 2015 EasyFix link
i can't believe the amount of stupidity in this thread.

as if seiger thinks that ANYONE will believe him he got PKs that fast or that his counter is from hard matches in pvp. his actions prove he is a sneaky guy. (and no one is that dumb). anyone who believes this is an ego trip is a striaghtforward dumbass. seiger isn't estrian prosis.

he is doing this crap to provoke his enemy and he is succeeding at it like no one else of tgft. the 4 or 5 people who are against anything somebody with TGFT tag does made a thread and whined so loud that this guy probably hears it over where he lives. they even demanded that VO needs to get rid of PK statistics lol.

with no doubt this ain't everyones type of humor and i agree here. but certainly and we gotta give him that: he pissed all the people off he and his guild don't like.
my suggestion: if you wanna help then make sure that you don't feed the troll too much. right now you are pulling a funny as shit comedy show. if this is read by seiger i predict he will shit his pants of laughter...
Oct 07, 2015 Savet link
How's the TGFT tit nectar taste easyfix? What is your pilot name? So far it looks like you only conveniently show up to provide Greenwall support when he is losing forum arguments.
Oct 07, 2015 EasyFix link
i'm not siding with anyone here unlike you, you poor excuse of a clown. you should have been banned long ago for the amount of sexist and rape jokes you have made these are much more hurtful to the player base. instead you moan when somebody is pulling a satire.

i just pointed at the fact that it is obvious that seiger is doing this as a joke (very possibly to ridicule estrian prosis). give him credit for it. it is hilarious to see how much the pk stats means to certain people.

happy bloggin'
Oct 07, 2015 Savet link
It's not a rape joke if I don't remember it.

I notice you said sexist too. Are you a feminist? That's adorable.

It's amusing that you are the only one that seems to understand sieger's motives. In reality, all he's done is completely obfuscate the accomplishment of other players.

What's you pilot name, BTW? You seem to have omitted that. I want to take you seriously, but you seem to be lacking credentials.

https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Avendetta-online.com+easyfix&oq=site%3Avendetta-online.com+easyfix&ie=UTF-8#q=site:vendetta-online.com+%22easyfix%22&prmd=svin&filter=0
Oct 07, 2015 bojansplash link
Lol Savet, EasyFix is Sieger, he has been online all morning farming more alt pks.

Oct 07, 2015 EasyFix link
haha now the SKV logic brings alt accuses. thats cute. "he was only when u was! u must be him!!!!11oneoneone". idiots.

savet:

i go by my forum name in game. is there anything ou want to tell me in-game? i can be your therapist.
Oct 07, 2015 greenwall link
Hey savet leave my forum alts alone, lulz.
Oct 07, 2015 Savet link
Then stop having conversations with yourself.
Oct 07, 2015 davejohn link
Another four pages of whining about TGFT, a guild which EP claims to have completely destroyed ? Kinda failed there I think.

If the devs think it is a problem they will fix it, SKV can whine all they like. Another example of Bojan whining about traders doing the same things as members of SKV.

Very good, carry on.
Oct 07, 2015 Savet link
You mistake chastisement of bullshit as whining. It's an easy mistake seeing as how English isn't your native tongue.
Oct 07, 2015 greenwall link
To be fair, we haven't yet had Bojan's class on "Differences between chastisement of ethical inferiors and bullshit whining of ethical superiors." I think that's next weeks lecture.
Oct 07, 2015 Pizzasgood link
"Rin, I can't understand/believe you can give Westacular a pass for having a seemingly unlimited amount of characters in this game (most of which are f2p) in the same breath as shaming someone for pk farming themselves. How is one better than the other?"

I didn't give Westacular a pass. I didn't give him anything. This thread isn't about him. But since we're on the topic, why should I have a problem with West having a lot of alts? Alts are an intentional and encouraged part of the game -- we have multiple character slots and a mutually exclusive faction system for a reason. And if people want to pay more money to have even more alts, I really don't care. (As for having lots of F2P alts... well, I think my stance on free players has been established well enough at this point.)

What I do find distasteful is when people use alts for spying, or otherwise fail to keep their various characters independent (unless they're blatantly obvious: Bluewall/Greenwall, ARF_01/ARF_02, etc. are fine). In my mind that registers as "doing it wrong" and generally lame. But I don't consider it dishonorable, against the rules, unethical, or anything like that. Just stupid.


"Also, the fact that you said nothing about the Bojan-admitted abuse of hiding inside a roid points to your suspension of unbiased consideration."

No it doesn't. I just didn't feel like going off on a tangent. The world is full of problems. This thread was about a specific problem -- Sieger inflating his PK count like a ninny. The existence of other problems doesn't make this one stop existing, and we shouldn't have to address every problem in the world any time we want to address one specific problem.

But since you're concerned about it, fine, let's have a small tangent. I do think hiding inside a roid is worse behavior than inflating a PK count. Currently, PK counts do not impact gameplay past a certain point, and I'm confident that Sieger scored enough legitimate PKs to pass that point. I'm not confident that he actually did so first, before ever inflating them through various means. But he's not an incompetent pilot, just an incompetent human. So although his behavior here is dishonorable and possibly a form of preemptive cheating (in the event that the devs ever introduce practical rewards for very high PK counts), it is not currently cheating in any sort of game-impacting way. Hiding inside a roid, on the other hand, is. This makes hiding inside a roid worse behavior than PK inflating.

Do note that at no point have I ever claimed to be friends with Bojan, nor have I ever condoned the behavior of hiding inside roids. I vote consistently in favor of suggestions about detecting if people are inside objects they shouldn't be and blowing them up or pushing them out. So if you make a thread complaining about people hiding in roids, I will say, "Yeah, that's shitty behavior." Or whatever. But you haven't made a thread about that. This is not a thread about that. This thread is about a specific instance of Sieger's shitty behavior. The fact that other people also do shitty things doesn't change the fact that what Sieger is doing is shitty. We shouldn't say, "Oh, well, other people are assholes too, so who cares?"

Sieger is an asshole. Should he be banned for that? No. Should the PK stat be removed? No. Should he be punished officially at all? I don't really care. But should we respect him? Absolutely not.
Oct 07, 2015 Serious.Person link
In all honesty: It is far worse than any PK farming to label people "incompetent humans" or "assholes' over their actions in online games.

That is what makes you look like an asshole, Pizzasgood. God. This is a game.
Oct 07, 2015 Savet link
If a person doesn't want to be labeled an incompetent human, a person should refrain from doing things that make them appear incompetent.
Oct 07, 2015 Pizzasgood link
Sure, it's just a game. But that doesn't mean that people's behavior is inconsequential. The concept of sportsmanship exists for a reason. We are all real people, and our interactions are no less meaningful just because they happen in the context of a game rather than a pub.
Oct 07, 2015 greenwall link
The existence of other problems doesn't make this one stop existing, and we shouldn't have to address every problem in the world any time we want to address one specific problem.


I agree Rin, but you are oversimplifying the situation. Arsonists don't get to cry about someone else starting a fire somewhere and somehow avoid being called hypocrites.
Oct 07, 2015 joylessjoker link
Pizza is correct. THIS thread is about sieger and his assholery. If you want to talk about bojan/west/EP/whatever, make a new thread. Nobody is gonna stop you. Oversimplication? Its as simple as that.
Oct 07, 2015 Serious.Person link
I completely disagree, Pizzasgood.
Online games are a relief for many people. In role playing games, they can be who they want and do what they want, letting off a lot of steam. You can do just as you please.

You can be a pirate, you can be a troll in many ways. You can be a griefer.
Judging the real character of people just cause they did something you don't like in an online game is wrong and cannot be justified. There is a difference between that and just disagreeing with the behavior.
Oct 07, 2015 Pizzasgood link
"I agree Rin, but you are oversimplifying the situation. Arsonists don't get to cry about someone else starting a fire somewhere and somehow avoid being called hypocrites."

No, I'm not. I haven't said you can't call people a hypocrite. I'm simply opposed to attempting to dismiss an issue just because some of those upset are hypocrites. And that's what you've been doing -- you keep trying to get people to ignore Sieger and focus on others.