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Doubting is equavalent to denial. Refusing to acknowledge something in the face of overwhelming facts to the contrary is called denial. Getting you to see yourself for what you are is what's known as impossible. You may now return to believing your magical world.
Where are the overwhelming facts?
In Siegers case we have them documented and in plain sight right here.
In EP case we have no facts just Incarnates action of removing his pks. This is the main reason I said -
If Incarnate says "EP cheated by farming alts" I will accept it and say that EP cheated. End of story.
Where are the overwhelming facts?
In Siegers case we have them documented and in plain sight right here.
In EP case we have no facts just Incarnates action of removing his pks. This is the main reason I said -
If Incarnate says "EP cheated by farming alts" I will accept it and say that EP cheated. End of story.
Why don't you ask your guild mate. Incarnate isn't in the business of outing cheaters publicly though I'm sure EP got a strongly worded email from him. Kierky would you mind putting Bojan at ease, he seems uncomfortable knowing he flies with cheaters.
"In EP case we have no facts just Incarnates action of removing his pks."
The removal of his PKs is a fact, Bojan. And what do you think is the most likely reason for that stat change?
"It's really quite fascinating how much time and effort greenwall puts into evaluating and building psychological profiles of players in a damn online video game. A sure sign that he has nothing better to do with his lame, worthless life."
Not necessarily, joylessjoker. I spend no time at all building profiles of people, and yet it happens anyway by simple virtue of interacting with them or reading their posts. It's an old but powerful technique. The ancient Chinese masters called this process "結識某人", which is pronounced in at least one dialect as "geh tink tu no sum ba di".
"What in gods name makes you think that's likely?"
Because that's what I'd do in their place, greenwall, as would pretty much any programmer with more than a smidgen of experience. Somebody like Kierky who has been playing for years would have ridiculous amount of data logged on him, meaning it would take ridiculous amounts of time to go through by hand unless any accusations of cheating included very specific time periods. So it's extremely likely that they at least came up with basic tools for examining individual accounts to identify which bits of data they need to look at, if any. From there it wouldn't be a stretch to run that on all accounts that have been active in the last year and have more than 1000 PKs, sort the results by severity, and then examine the highest ranking datasets.
That all does take time, and going through the results by hand to avoid false positives would still be time consuming and annoying.
This all fits with observation.
The removal of his PKs is a fact, Bojan. And what do you think is the most likely reason for that stat change?
"It's really quite fascinating how much time and effort greenwall puts into evaluating and building psychological profiles of players in a damn online video game. A sure sign that he has nothing better to do with his lame, worthless life."
Not necessarily, joylessjoker. I spend no time at all building profiles of people, and yet it happens anyway by simple virtue of interacting with them or reading their posts. It's an old but powerful technique. The ancient Chinese masters called this process "結識某人", which is pronounced in at least one dialect as "geh tink tu no sum ba di".
"What in gods name makes you think that's likely?"
Because that's what I'd do in their place, greenwall, as would pretty much any programmer with more than a smidgen of experience. Somebody like Kierky who has been playing for years would have ridiculous amount of data logged on him, meaning it would take ridiculous amounts of time to go through by hand unless any accusations of cheating included very specific time periods. So it's extremely likely that they at least came up with basic tools for examining individual accounts to identify which bits of data they need to look at, if any. From there it wouldn't be a stretch to run that on all accounts that have been active in the last year and have more than 1000 PKs, sort the results by severity, and then examine the highest ranking datasets.
That all does take time, and going through the results by hand to avoid false positives would still be time consuming and annoying.
This all fits with observation.
Who cares its done. I called ep out on his cheats forever ago and the karma gods have finally answered. Now if they would just skim through his duel logs then the verse would finally be put to balance
since ep took a vacation from the game he showed us the response and it was basically cause he was annoying and made the devs look through the pk logs
So they erased his PKs cause he was annoying?
Yea, and this whole thread is annoying so we'll all be zapped next
rin I agree it would make sense to do it, but the way incarnate talks about going through all the data and how time comsuming it is would seem to indicate they haven't implimented such tools.
Hey guys,at least Sieger admitted he did it shortly after.So Sieger is more honourable than bs EP.
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I'd much rather to fly with EP than Sieger. Sieger is astoundingly arrogant and narcissistic.
good one, joyless, lol
Only a bully would validate other bullies.
Only an apprentice of the great ethics guru Dr. Bojan would make such an astute assertion!
Only a bully would make such a condescending remark and sport such a mocking demeanor. You asked for evidence? Here you go, read your own posts again.
I'm sorry, I don't understand what you are saying. Since you are struggling with using words, perhaps you could use a meme?
Sieger is astoundingly arrogant and narcissistic.
I find humor that one would make this assertions about Sieger, and in the same breath assert anything other about EP.
Arrogance is nothing new to VO, and one has only to refer back to the likes of Nahin Lor, Spidey, or Roda Slane.
Arrogance is perhaps not even the right word. The truly arrogant do not need any pk counts, and surely would not go out of their way for any artificial pk counts. It does not matter how many I have killed before you, when it comes time, to kill, you.
I find humor that one would make this assertions about Sieger, and in the same breath assert anything other about EP.
Arrogance is nothing new to VO, and one has only to refer back to the likes of Nahin Lor, Spidey, or Roda Slane.
Arrogance is perhaps not even the right word. The truly arrogant do not need any pk counts, and surely would not go out of their way for any artificial pk counts. It does not matter how many I have killed before you, when it comes time, to kill, you.
It's not arrogance to put yourself in the same sentence as nahin and spidey. It is WAY BEYOND arrogance.
Yeah wtf Roda, give yourself your own fucking sentence. What were you thinking?
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On one hand, it is wrong of me to categorize myself with Nahin or Spidey. I would likely lose most duels with either of them.
On the other hand, the difference between you and I, are so far beyond the difference between Nahin, Spidey, and myself, that I must in all proper arrogance ask: "what other category more closely fits?".
I am not worthy to be considered on the same level as Nahin, or Spidey, until I am compared, in relation to you, and at that point, you fighting me, is not significantly different from you fighting Nahin or Spidey.
On the other hand, the difference between you and I, are so far beyond the difference between Nahin, Spidey, and myself, that I must in all proper arrogance ask: "what other category more closely fits?".
I am not worthy to be considered on the same level as Nahin, or Spidey, until I am compared, in relation to you, and at that point, you fighting me, is not significantly different from you fighting Nahin or Spidey.