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duude... you're saying right now that you only fight VOID because there's a war between you two. between YOU and the SERCO there is a war too, you know? you just choose to ignore that. you don't care about it.
to you, it's worse that VOID may have had some relations with TGFT at some point than the Serco slaughtering Itani women and kids (from a RP-perspective). and all i'm saying is that that is complete crap and ruins RP.
it'd be much MORE likely that you and VOID made up and came to your senses than you teaming with the Serco. and the fact that you do the latter is just... sad.
to you, it's worse that VOID may have had some relations with TGFT at some point than the Serco slaughtering Itani women and kids (from a RP-perspective). and all i'm saying is that that is complete crap and ruins RP.
it'd be much MORE likely that you and VOID made up and came to your senses than you teaming with the Serco. and the fact that you do the latter is just... sad.
Greenwall and all VOID alts in this thread clearly know how to RP properly, after all they are RolePlaying as pirates that would never ally with traders.
or not.
or not.
even if that's true and a real screenshot... i don't see what that has to do with nationalist RP being ruined and broken by SKV and ONE right now. between those two there should be a genereal hate if they call themself nationalist. there is an ancient war between their races and they play warriors for their own nation. that they instead choose to work together is in no way illegitimate. but it breaks RP.
"traders" and "pirates" on the other hand are not enemies because of an ancient war or a deeply rooted hate. individual traders hate individual pirates for pirating their tradeships. it is not uncommon for a group of pirates making a general agreement with a group of traders to grant these traders safety in exchange for other goods. calling them "allies" may be wrong in some RP way. i give you that. but it is not as horrible as Serco and Itani OFFICIALLY and COMPLETELY against the backstory working together against somebody they have a grudge against just because it is convenient for them.
traders and pirates are shady opportunists in grey space making shady deals at times.
serco and itani are ancient honorable races hating each other deeply.
you get me?
P.S.: i looked at the picture again and now doubt it's an actual screenshot. EMS are listed as allies there. and to my knowledge EMS has never allied with anyone... and there is no official statement by EMS to that either. but i suppose that is another story.
"traders" and "pirates" on the other hand are not enemies because of an ancient war or a deeply rooted hate. individual traders hate individual pirates for pirating their tradeships. it is not uncommon for a group of pirates making a general agreement with a group of traders to grant these traders safety in exchange for other goods. calling them "allies" may be wrong in some RP way. i give you that. but it is not as horrible as Serco and Itani OFFICIALLY and COMPLETELY against the backstory working together against somebody they have a grudge against just because it is convenient for them.
traders and pirates are shady opportunists in grey space making shady deals at times.
serco and itani are ancient honorable races hating each other deeply.
you get me?
P.S.: i looked at the picture again and now doubt it's an actual screenshot. EMS are listed as allies there. and to my knowledge EMS has never allied with anyone... and there is no official statement by EMS to that either. but i suppose that is another story.
If it is a real screenshot its from a time before I resubbed, as our guild MOTD does not resemble that screen shot. Blaqk is the one who sets the policies, who we offer payment servies, who we KOS, and who we offer other services in exchange for goods. From an RP perspective, VOID would be completely in line with offering an alliance with any guild or group if they in return also offered VOID something of value. I'm not sure what Evyndir is complaining about. Maybe he is complaining that people are able to actually RP in VO, because he's gotten so used to SKV sucking at it.
no i don't get you, person that words his sentences like Sieger would. HOWEVER who says us Itani are still not killing the Serco and vice versa? do you expect me to fight a Serco member while a pirate is in the sector shooting me in the back and after i'm done he will shoot the Serco? what is happening here is common sense, buddy. The screenshot is real. TGFT gives VOID 0 goods for the alliance. it's simple VOID are TGFT puppets.
get it?
P.S; that screenshot is 1 week old :)
get it?
P.S; that screenshot is 1 week old :)
lol Xerax, you keep talking RP and how the Serco did atrocious things. Nazi Germany was 70ish years ago now look at their relations with countries today. In this game, the last big battle the Serco/Itani had was almost 400 years ago. The time where we 'slaughtered' the Itani was what 600 years agos. Plenty of time for negotiations with certain factions .
If it is a real screenshot its from a time before I resubbed, as our guild MOTD does not resemble that screen shot.
ok thanks greenwall. adds to my impression that its a propaganda screenshot. but maybe blaqk can chime in to bring light into the dark and tell us if thats a real thing.
eyindr:
no i don't get you, person that words his sentences like Sieger would.
i'm sorry that you cannot believe that there is more than one person to whom this situation appears awfully wrong. actually there are multiple. not only sieger but also harpo is a good example who himself said that he thinks SKV is out of a job in nationalism.
HOWEVER who says us Itani are still not killing the Serco and vice versa?
observations..? i have not seen or heard of a battle between the serco and the itani in this game a long time. this is supported by what Inevitable just said. to him the war is "long over"...
to the rest of what you said i'd like to add is that nothing is wrong with trying to not get shot in the back. although i have no idea what pirates are doing in deneb?
and if for some odd reason you fight the serco in grey space the solution is to fight against both enemies. i thought your guild was an elite combat squad?
if instead of doing that you group up with the serco to kill the pirate you are doing something wrong. all i say.
inevitable:
lol Xerax, you keep talking RP and how the Serco did atrocious things. Nazi Germany was 70ish years ago now look at their relations with countries today. In this game, the last big battle the Serco/Itani had was almost 400 years ago.
so you are saying the war with the itani is over since so much time passed? why is that not noted in the backstory. why are there up to this date fights in Deneb over a system if the war is over and relations have been cooled down? weird...
ok thanks greenwall. adds to my impression that its a propaganda screenshot. but maybe blaqk can chime in to bring light into the dark and tell us if thats a real thing.
eyindr:
no i don't get you, person that words his sentences like Sieger would.
i'm sorry that you cannot believe that there is more than one person to whom this situation appears awfully wrong. actually there are multiple. not only sieger but also harpo is a good example who himself said that he thinks SKV is out of a job in nationalism.
HOWEVER who says us Itani are still not killing the Serco and vice versa?
observations..? i have not seen or heard of a battle between the serco and the itani in this game a long time. this is supported by what Inevitable just said. to him the war is "long over"...
to the rest of what you said i'd like to add is that nothing is wrong with trying to not get shot in the back. although i have no idea what pirates are doing in deneb?
and if for some odd reason you fight the serco in grey space the solution is to fight against both enemies. i thought your guild was an elite combat squad?
if instead of doing that you group up with the serco to kill the pirate you are doing something wrong. all i say.
inevitable:
lol Xerax, you keep talking RP and how the Serco did atrocious things. Nazi Germany was 70ish years ago now look at their relations with countries today. In this game, the last big battle the Serco/Itani had was almost 400 years ago.
so you are saying the war with the itani is over since so much time passed? why is that not noted in the backstory. why are there up to this date fights in Deneb over a system if the war is over and relations have been cooled down? weird...
Denial is easy :)
If you want more proof, I joined the discord link not long ago and saw the VOID Lt's message stating that TGFT is indeed an ally, keep trying to deny it tho baby.
If you want more proof, I joined the discord link not long ago and saw the VOID Lt's message stating that TGFT is indeed an ally, keep trying to deny it tho baby.
a nice try to distract from the core problem eyindr. the core problem is that the Itani-Serco conflict is literally the main aspect of Vendetta Online. and when two of the active longterm nationalist guilds decide to just flat out ignore this to stand a chance against whatever enemy they want to fight together right now then that ruins RP.
compared to that some pirates apparently allying (not even officially) with an inactive trading guild is irrelevant.
compared to that some pirates apparently allying (not even officially) with an inactive trading guild is irrelevant.
Oh man, you're in deep aren't you? I replied to this thread because know it alls think they can tell someone how to RP "properly" while not even engaging in RP themselves.
There have been serco v itani battles of a certain sort, but none of them have had SKV battling against ONE.
Bojan; Whatever the history, however it got here, take a look at the situation. What you yourself said;
"I do not deny that SKV & ONE have an understanding over conquerable stations for a practical reason.
None of us want to waste time and resources fighting over stations, we have better things to do."
You were here when SKV was first founded, you know what it's supposed to be about. Elite Itani pilots who are there to kill Serco and chew gum... and there's no gum in space. Teaming with ONE instead of shooting them... what would Shape & Ghost say??
If VOID betrayed you, unforgivably, then f*** them up too. But damn man, don't team with ONE
If you're sick of fighting over stations with Serco, then leave SKV or play a different character for a while. But damn man, don't team with ONE!
Otherwise, this is 100% true, "you pick personal grudges in a game over RP. that just kind of ruins it man"
And I'm a bit disappointed. Sorry for airing this on the boards, but I haven't been able to catch you ingame. Hope to talk soon though
"I do not deny that SKV & ONE have an understanding over conquerable stations for a practical reason.
None of us want to waste time and resources fighting over stations, we have better things to do."
You were here when SKV was first founded, you know what it's supposed to be about. Elite Itani pilots who are there to kill Serco and chew gum... and there's no gum in space. Teaming with ONE instead of shooting them... what would Shape & Ghost say??
If VOID betrayed you, unforgivably, then f*** them up too. But damn man, don't team with ONE
If you're sick of fighting over stations with Serco, then leave SKV or play a different character for a while. But damn man, don't team with ONE!
Otherwise, this is 100% true, "you pick personal grudges in a game over RP. that just kind of ruins it man"
And I'm a bit disappointed. Sorry for airing this on the boards, but I haven't been able to catch you ingame. Hope to talk soon though
@smitty
I don't want to derail this thread like ziggy and his forum alts are constantly trying to do.
If you want us to catch up about the current state of the game, hit me in game or on IRC.
I don't want to derail this thread like ziggy and his forum alts are constantly trying to do.
If you want us to catch up about the current state of the game, hit me in game or on IRC.
Euscorpius;
You can also get the answer yourself directly from the commander of ONE if you click the link I mentioned. And can read literally any of the topics on this RP..channel.. to see where everyone else stands on this
Until you come around to realize that you're assisting medic-killers, SOM will be treated as hostile and I'll do my part to make sure new pilots are not deceived by your false claims of "protecting" space
You can also get the answer yourself directly from the commander of ONE if you click the link I mentioned. And can read literally any of the topics on this RP..channel.. to see where everyone else stands on this
Until you come around to realize that you're assisting medic-killers, SOM will be treated as hostile and I'll do my part to make sure new pilots are not deceived by your false claims of "protecting" space
Bojan; Cool I'll try to catch you later today
lol... I look forward to seeing how Bojan's attempt to convince Smittens he's been doing the right thing goes.
I'm confused. I didn't even derail this thread yet. And my numerous forum alts didn't even get launched yet.. What??
Anyway: I am all for this discussion between smittens who has made some good points and BJ who is being his delightful self again being posted publicy. Could you do that please? I wanna see it.
Anyway: I am all for this discussion between smittens who has made some good points and BJ who is being his delightful self again being posted publicy. Could you do that please? I wanna see it.
Smittens;
Doing that makes you look like you never cared in the first place. It also make you look like a pirate supporter, since we are pirate hunters after all. I don't want that for us. I've seen the posts, now I will talk to Dilan when Dilan wants to talk. (it takes time, real life is getting in the way at the moment for me.)
Doing that makes you look like you never cared in the first place. It also make you look like a pirate supporter, since we are pirate hunters after all. I don't want that for us. I've seen the posts, now I will talk to Dilan when Dilan wants to talk. (it takes time, real life is getting in the way at the moment for me.)
I forgot to ask, why is BOAT on your KOS list?
Did you really have to ask? Sieger, Greenwall, and jordan/14/f. The mere mention of those three names should be an explanation enough.